[arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers

[John Santos]

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Santos [mailto:JOHN at egh.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:10 PM
> > To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > Cc: 'Kevin Kargel'; 'ARIN PPML'
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers
> > 
> > 
> > It wasn't necessarily a lie.  It could have been completely 
> > legit at the time.  May A is cutting back and has closed a 
> > bunch of facilities.  Maybe A has acquired X, Y and Z and has 
> > renumbered or consolidated so it only needs one or two of the 
> > original 4.
> > Maybe A is using RFC1988 or IPv6 internally and no longer 
> > needs all its original allocation.
> > 
> 
> That wasn't the kind of thing I was talking about.  In those cases
> the org that requested did so in accordance with the contract.
> 
> It's the orgs that supply totally bogus information in an
> attempt to obtain numbers purely for speculatory purposes that
> are in violation.  A transfer market will encourage this
> kind of behavior immensely IMHO.
> 
> Ted

What ever policy is adopted should distinguish legitimate players
from cheaters, and not just tar them all with the same brush.

You seemed to be claiming that anyone in A's position lied on
their original request for an allocation.  I agree that liars
shouldn't be able to benefit from their lies, but you need
more than this to distinguish them.

I'm just trying to tighten up the arguments so we aren't fighting
over straw men here.

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John Santos
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