[arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Mon Apr 6 17:59:55 EDT 2009


Process note: since fees are not subject to the PDP, you'll need to  
make any fee change suggestions to the Board, either directly or  
possibly through the ASCP.

-Scott

On Apr 6, 2009, at 2:35 PM, "Brian Johnson" <bjohnson at drtel.com> wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
> On
>> Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:09 PM
>> To: 'Kevin Kargel'; 'Leo Vegoda'; 'ARIN PPML'
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers
>>
>>
> <snip>
>>
>> Unfortunately, many of these are operational, not policy, issues.
>> Particularly the fee proposals, an issue near to my heart (as I
>> don't work at a large ISP who gets the "Costco discount" on IPv4)
>>
>> Ted
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by Costco discount. If you mean that there
> should be a direct cost per IP address that should remain consistent
> across total assignment sizes, then I understand your point.
>
> I always find these types of comments to be a bit grating and tend to
> diminish the dialog instead of promote discussion. There is no place  
> in
> the policy that gives anyone a discount. If you have more assignments,
> you pay more than others who have fewer assignments. This is not a
> discount.
>
> If viewed by cost/IP, then the cost/IP for larger orgs (ISPs generally
> speaking) is less than for smaller orgs. This has been long standing
> policy. If you want to change this. Make a proposal and get consensus.
> Don't degrade one group to make yourself feel better.
>
> - Brian
>
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