[arin-ppml] The AC has a job to do with 2009-1 can you please help?

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Maimon [mailto:jmaimon at chl.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:04 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: 'Stephen Sprunk'; 'Jeremy H.Griffith'; 'ARIN PPML'
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The AC has a job to do with 2009-1 
> can you please help?
> 
> 
> 
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> > 
> > IPv6 rectifies this and once the world switches over to 
> IPv6 all this 
> > capitalist/communist claptrap will be seen by everyone for the 
> > nonsense that it is - there is no market in an effectively infinite 
> > supply of integers.
> > 
> 
> How do you propose to force everyone to move to ipv6?
> 
> By denying them ipv4?
> 
> You really think thats going to work? When ARIN says there is 
> no more ipv4, everyone is going to meekly accept that?
> 

Joe, you have to get realistic.

Where are most of the assigned IPv4 numbers currently tied up?

North America, specifically the USA

Where's the most potential for further expansion of the Internet?

Everywhere ELSE than the USA.

We have a problem here in the US.  We develop things first, then
when we outgrow them we sit around arguing over the best way to
deny some people access to them, so that we don't have to spend the
money expanding them.

This is most obvious in transportation.  We have a growing population,
every year there are more cars on the road - thus to keep pace all
roads need to be periodically widened.  Yet, go into ANY community
with congestion and propose widening any road and you will get a
perfect storm of opposition.  People will passionately argue for
increased mass transit and busses and bicycling when in reality
they are thinking to themselves "if we put in more busses then
maybe everybody ELSE will get out of their cars and ride the bus
and leave the roads to ME"  The problem of course is every last man
in the room is thinking exactly the same thing.

This IPv4 argument is self-destructive.  When IPv4 is out, the idea that
the rest of the world is going to come to our doors and pay us
lots of money for our IPv4 is pure fiction.  The rest of the world
right now is sitting around waiting for the USA to get off its
ASS and start booting networks in the butt to get IPv6 deployed.
And we are making a poor display of acting like a responsible
adult.

ARIN and our community should be making EVERY EFFORT to figure out
ways to FORCE people OUT of IPv4 because WE HAVE THE MOST TO LOSE IF
WE DON'T.

You want the US to become an island of IPv4 in the sea of IPv6
in the rest of the worlds Internet, just go right ahead with this
foolishness.  Sure, make it easy to keep truckin' with IPv4 post
runout.  Make it super easy.  Who cares if a few poor people get
tossed off the Internet or become permanent second-class citizens
behind a translator somewhere, when it lets the major ISPs wring
another few years out of their IPv4 networks.  Who cares if the rest
of the world rings the US with IPv4<->IPv6 proxies that oh, by the way,
make nice black boxes that they can use to filter us out.

The wars of the future world are going to be in ideas.  If the US
wants to isolate itself then in another half-century our Democratic
ideals along with our Constitution will be slid into the history books
under "ideas in government that self-imploded" and the prevaling
ideology of the world will be planned economies.

Ted