[arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers

Leo Vegoda leo.vegoda at icann.org
Mon Apr 6 15:19:40 EDT 2009


On 06/04/2009 11:33, "Seth Mattinen" <sethm at rollernet.us> wrote:

[...]

>> Assuming that people agree to return space to ARIN without the encouragement
>> of a chunk of cash that a transfer market might bring, how should ARIN
>> decide which requests to grant and which to deny when there are more
>> requests than space available? The options I see (in no particular order)
>> are:
> 
> IP addresses aren't the property of the holder, thus they should not be
> able to sell or profit from the exchange of something that doesn't
> belong to them in the first place.

I'm not arguing for or against a market.

My comments were really aimed at asking the question below, about
alternative models. I think that it is important to plan for the likely
situation that there is more demand than supply. ARIN needs a way to handle
that situation, just in case it is what happens.

>> - Best fit, i.e. prefixes aren't cut up to fill more requests
>> - Worthiness contest, e.g. one kind of service judged more important than
>> another
>> - First come first served
>> - Widest distribution, i.e. get address space to as many networks as
>> possible at the cost of deaggregation
>> 
>> Maybe there are other options, too.  What is your alternative to the
>> proposal for a transfer policy?
> 
> How much space they already have? With all due respect to the large orgs
> on this list, I'm not apt to shed a tear when you can't get another /8
> to add to the collection when I just need to add a /22 or /21. For a
> small org not getting that space (and unable to afford it from hoarders)
> could be a death blow.

So, based on your comment, which option would you pick from my list or would
you choose something else?

I'm interested in people posting about which method should be used to
distribute whatever resources are available when demand exceeds supply. If
ARIN has to make a decision between competing claims, what mechanism should
it apply when doing so?

I'm asking because I don't think it is enough to oppose a policy proposal if
no workable alternative is offered. I want to know what the alternative is.

Regards,

Leo




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