[arin-ppml] Retrun Incentives (WAS: the Transfer Policy Argument Space)

[David Farmer]

Sorry, about the Caps Lock state table problem in the subject line; :-(

While I'm here FYI RFC 1917 is also known as BCP 4

On 4 Sep 2008 David Farmer wrote:

> This is really truning into a sperated discussion from figuring out
> the Argument Space, into a discussion of issues, a good Discussion,
> but it should be a separate thread please.
> 
> ------
> 
> Comments below;
> 
> On 4 Sep 2008 Bill Darte wrote:
> 
> > My personal opinion is:
> > 
> > "The ARIN Board of Trustees on behalf of ARIN and the community at
> > large requests that as a service to that community, holders of
> > address space which is available to return, or which they are
> > willing to make available for return, should do so at their earliest
> > convenience.  On behalf of the community that will need these
> > addresses as the industry transitions to IPv6, ARIN thanks you."
> > 
> > bd
> 
> So why do you think this will be anymore effective than RFC 1917?
> 
> I also think 4.1 of RFC1917 is interesting, in a previous thread I
> asked why a transfer policy isn't more desirable than what is
> suggested there?
> 
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Howard, W. Lee [mailto:Lee.Howard at stanleyassociates.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:16 AM To: Bill Darte; John
> > > Curran; Owen DeLong Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net Subject: RE:
> > > [arin-ppml] the Transfer Policy Argument Space
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Owen DeLong and Bill Darte said:
> > > > ARIN should encourage entities with free space to return it. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What form should that encouragement take?
> > > 
> > > 1.  "The ARIN Board of Trustees encourages those entities 
> > > with free address space to return it to ARIN."
> > > 2.  "The ARIN Board of Trustees offers one large, chewy 
> > > chocolate chip cookie to any entity with free address space 
> > > who returns it to ARIN."
> > > 3.  ARIN reduces fees on remaining space.
> > > 4.  ARIN offers publicity for those who return space.
> > > 5.  ARIN offers prizes to those who return space.  What prizes? 6.
> > > ARIN offers cash to those who return space.  How much? 7.  Fill in
> > > the blank _____________________
> > > 
> > > In case anyone sitting on big chunks of addresses is feeling
> > > discouraged, I encourage you to return space to ARIN.
> > > 
> > > Not to be pessimistic, but I don't think there's enough 
> > > unused address space to matter, unless we also reduce the 
> > > rate at which we assign IPv4 address space.
> > > 
> > > Lee
> > > 
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