[arin-ppml] the Transfer Policy Argument Space

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Wed Sep 3 15:46:16 EDT 2008

Great idea David, I agree 100% that defining / mapping the argument
space will help everyone to better understand their own position as
well as the positions of others.

Maybe I am making this more complicated than it needs to be but for me
to really wrap my head around the entire argument space, I had to take
a graphical approach. For those interested, it can be found here:

I am open to suggestions on how this drawing could be improved,
utilized, discarded, and/or converted to text to complement the list
you are generating in this thread.


On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:20 AM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> I'm hearing many different arguments related to the transfer policy.  I've
> come to the conclusion that this is a very complicated argument space we
> are dealing with and I don't think everyone is seeing the whole argument
> landscape, I know I'm having problems with this.  As things exist currently,
> I'm not sure we can come to any consensus, not even a consensus to drop
> the issue.
> Therefore, in this thread I would like some help to map out the argument
> space we are working with.  I would like us to intentionally simplify the
> arguments and gloss over many of the nuances.  What I'm asking for us to
> do is map out the breath and shape of the argument space we are dealing
> with here, rather than to perfectly capture the nuances of each argument.
> If you want to argue the merits of some part of the argument, please do that
> as part of another thread.  If possible I would like help in this thread to
> clearly and dispassionately state the various parts of the argument, not to
> argue it.
> So to that end, I'm going try to start, this is only a start, please help by
> adding or refining the arguments, but argue them in different threads please:
> 1. IPv6 is a failure and can not succeed, therefore we must extend the life of
> IPv4 indefinitely beyond free poll exhaustion, a transfer policy is part of that;
> 2. IPv6 will eventually succeed, however we need to keep IPv4 viable until
> the transiton is complete, a transfer policy will help keep IPv4 viable beyond
> free poll exhaustion;
> 3. IPv6 will eventually succeed, but only if there is a forcing function to move
> people from IPv4, free poll exhaustion is this forcing function;
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