[arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Wed Oct 29 16:27:06 EDT 2008



> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Kargel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:13 PM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at ipinc.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:09 PM
> > To: 'Jo Rhett'
> > Cc: Kevin Kargel; ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jo Rhett [mailto:jrhett at svcolo.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:57 PM
> > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > > Cc: 'Kevin Kargel'; ppml at arin.net
> > > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to 
> IPv4 Scarcity
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Oct 29, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > > > And I'd be happy to allow you to keep the space and pay the
> > > > $1,000,000.00 USD fine every year. ;-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Show me where in the RSA it gives ARIN the right to fine me.
> > > 
> > 
> > The proposal from Chris was to institute fines, a fine would
> > be a modification of the NPRM which you are subject to.
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > 
> Hmm..  How many of you out there would be willing to sign a 
> document with a provider that allowed them to charge you 
> unlimited monies at their discretion?  How do you fit that in 
> to your operating budget?
> 

Oh, you mean like the agreement I have with my water/natural gas/
electric/cable/satellite/cell phone/etc/etc/etc/etc  company? ;-)

The One Million Dollars figure was to illustrate the fallacy
of claiming that fines are irrelevant, as well as a joke that 
you probably would have missed unless you saw the movie Austin
Powers.    There's only 1 kind of fine that is irrelevant and
that is a fine that is set too low.

Presumably, anyone setting up a fine schedule would be smart
enough to understand this and set the fines accordingly.  I suppose
I could have just said this, but where's the fun in that?

Understand of course that I don't support the proposal AT ALL but
I am not going to resist pointing out logical fallacies in
arguments against it - that DOES NOT mean I'm defending it!

Ted




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