[arin-ppml] Different Approach to the Transfer and Market issue- input requested

[Azinger, Marla]

-- How will investigators distinguish between abandoned and active but invisible address space?

ARIN staff has records that they can first refer to and any block with current and good contact info is never considered abondoned.  Two ARIN will publicly post all number resources on a public link off of the ARIN website.  Anyone can check this at anytime to see if one of their invisible blocks may mistakenly be under investigation.


-- A related question, how will the process avoid incentivizing finders to squat on abandoned space themselves rather than to report it to ARIN?

We can require that they demonstrate a period of squatting prior to the submission of this proposal.  However, there are plenty of incentives in this document to entice a person to report any number resources they have found that are not in use.


-- How will the cost of investigations, finder's fees, and the Lost Property Office be covered?

Cost would be covered just as all other policy is covered.  The staff will need to do an assessment on this policy for us to know what the cost might actually be to do this.


-- Presumably, over time the discovery process will get progressively slower. At what point will the process be deemed to be complete, and what happens to the policy mechanisms at that time?

We simply see it as a policy that isnt envoked if it isnt needed. We don't see this as a policy that would ever become truely obsolete due to the fact that companies will continue to go out of business and buy outs will occur without proper notification to ARIN being completed.



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Vest [mailto:tvest at pch.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:05 PM
To: Azinger, Marla
Cc: ARIN PPML; Jason Schiller
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Different Approach to the Transfer and Market issue- input requested

Hi Marla and Jason,

Thanks for sharing this.

A couple of questions:

-- Have you had a look at the ISI/Heideman survey?

http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/PAPERS/Heidemann08c.pdf

-- How will investigators distinguish between abandoned and active but invisible address space?
-- A related question, how will the process avoid incentivizing finders to squat on abandoned space themselves rather than to report report it to ARIN?
-- How will the cost of investigations, finder's fees, and the Lost Property Office be covered?
-- Presumably, over time the discovery process will get progressively slower. At what point will the process be deemed to be complete, and what happens to the policy mechanisms at that time?

Thanks,

TV

On Oct 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Azinger, Marla wrote:

> Hello-
>
> As promised here is an alternative proposal.  It has not officially
> been submitted in order to gain community feedback and revision before
> submitting.  Thank you everyone that has already shown interest in
> persuing this alternative approach.  Please be advised that this is a
> suggested new section to NRPM in addition to keeping the current
> section 4.6 Voluntary Partial Returns and Amnesty.
>
> If you are here at ARIN please find Marla Azinger or Jason schiller at
> the breaks to discuss.  Cheers!
>
> Name: Active Reclamation of abandoned number resources
>
> Rational:
> This policy addresses the following:
>       * Find, reclaim and re-use unused number resources.
>       * Give incentive to keep unused number resources out of the
> black market.
>       * Assist ARIN in cleaning up the database.
>       * Provide an incentive to self identify and return unused resources.
>       * Increase efficient utilization of ARIN number resources.
>       * Help ease the transition to IPv6.
>       * Help ensure fair re-distribution of resources to those who
> need them.
>
> NRPM#: Active Reclamation of abandoned number resources ARIN will
> actively investigate and ensure abandoned ARIN number resources
> including legacy resources that are under ARIN management are returned
> to the ARIN address pool for recirculation.  Any one may submit a
> report of abandonment for ARIN to investigate.  ARIN may investigate
> abandonment without a report when ARIN has reason to believe it has
> been abandoned.
>
> ARIN can use their discretion to determine if someone is abusing this
> policy by submitting multiple reports with poor evidence of
> abandonment.  This will result in a loss of claim to all reports
> currently in progress by the perceived abuser  ARIN has the right to
> reject investigation requests if they deem the reporting entity is
> abusing the policy.
>
> Addresses that are squatted and efficiently used will be granted
> amnesty if the addresses are self reported, back billing is reconciled
> and any applicable RSA is signed.  Partial returns and amnesty can be
> granted to squatted addresses under this policy.
>
>             Management of abandoned number resources -ARIN will keep a
> Lost Property Office via a direct link from the main ARIN website.
> -ARIN will publicly list all number resources that are reported
> abandoned on the Lost Property Office site and the status of the
> investigation.  Stats of recovered space through the abandoned number
> resources will be provided bi-annually at the ARIN Members Meetings.
> - ARIN will take measures to identify a chain of custody or successor
> in interest to the last known POC.  If the successor is determined,
> the block will be transferred to the successor under current ARIN
> policy.
> - If the number resources are not valid for transfer to the successor
> and the original finder is not eligible to receive the number
> resources then the block will be added back into the ARIN address pool
> for re-use.
> -The original "finder" is eligible for receipt of the addresses if
> they are currently eligible per ARIN policy to receive more addresses
> and the addresses are not transferred to a chain of custody that was
> discovered during investigation.
> - If an investigation reveals a successor who is unaware of their
> number resources, ARIN can decide if there is good faith and
> sufficient justification for the successor to keep the resources.
> Partial returns and amnesty can be granted to sucessors for blocks
> revealed in and investigation under this policy.
> -Before ARIN re-uses allegedly abandoned resources ARIN will work with
> ISP's to route these resources no less than 90 days in order to
> validate they are not in use.
> -The original "finder" will receive a "finders" compensation for the
> listing when either resolution occurs.  *For example a credit could be
> put towards their annual fees.
> -To report an abandoned block, send a request for investigation via
> the Abandoned Block Template.
>             Examples of Abandoned number resources:
>             - Unused Legacy (e.g. swamp)
>             -Business failure and the number resources are not
> currently assigned nor in use.
>             -Bad recordkeeping by an otherwise functional entity.
>             -Squatted space that is not self reported.
>
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