[ppml] Policy to help the little guys

Ray Plzak plzak at arin.net
Wed Mar 19 10:14:44 EDT 2008


Not sure what you are asking for, and then, don't know how long it will take to produce it.

Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of
> Tom Vest
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:05 AM
> To: Scott Leibrand
> Cc: Randy Bush; arin ppml
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Policy to help the little guys
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>
> > Randy Bush wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> arin is not directly not concerned with the end customer.  we are
> >> mostly
> >> self-serving medium and large isps because that is who can afford
> >> and is
> >> motivated to keep sending people to these meetings and reading
> drivel
> >> such as this message.  it's not an evil plot, it's economics.  who
> >> can
> >> afford the time and energy?  to whom is it worth the cost?
> >
> > So let's discuss some policies to help the end consumer.  I, for one,
> > spend my time and energy reading and writing this drivel because I
> > have
> > an overactive sense of altruism, or something, and enjoy it.  My
> > employer doesn't particularly care if I do or don't.
> >
> > One policy proposal that might help consumers is 2008-3, Community
> > Networks IPv6 Allocation.  I think I support that proposal, since
> > in my
> > own work on mesh networks I can definitely see the need for PI
> > space at
> > the community network layer.  Does anyone else have any thoughts on
> > whether adding a community networks criterion to get a PI /48 is a
> > good
> > idea?
> >
> > What about shifting the minimum allocation size?  Should we reopen
> > that
> > discussion and consider /24 or /23 instead of /22?
> >
> > I'm not sure what else the "little guys" need as far as policy.  Does
> > anyone else have any other suggestions?
> >
> > -Scott
>
> Question for ARIN stats folks:
>
> Historically -- say over the last 5-6 years -- what share of all
> subsequent allocations involves prefixes equal to or longer than the
> average or max. prefix length for all (concurrent policy era) initial
> allocations? That could help to suggest the degree to which new
> entrants and incumbents will be competing for the same IPv4 resources
> in a post-free pool environment, even if "convex pricing" emerges in
> any market for such resources.
>
> Depending on the answer to that  question, I might have a few
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TV
>
>
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