[ppml] Markets, pricing, transparency, 2008-2 / 8.3.9

Tom Vest tvest at pch.net
Mon Mar 17 21:28:52 EDT 2008

On Mar 17, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:

> On Mar 17, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Tom Vest wrote:
>> Since you chose to extract that lone passage to respond to, and to  
>> leave out my *explanatory note*, I feel obliged to respond:
> Because I hate people that quote 70+ lines of text.  If someone  
> wants to read everything you wrote they can find the original in  
> their mailer.  And in this case, it doesn't matter.  This lone  
> paragraph said exactly what concerned me -- trying to dictate  
> pricing to the market.  That's all I was responding to.
>> Which "market" exactly are you referring to? Since no market has  
>> been commissioned yet, and
> [snip]
> No idea.  I didn't give your proposal much consideration after I  
> saw that you wanted to dictate pricing to whatever market you  
> imagined.  At that point I knew it made no sense.
>> It makes sense to say something like this if you actively embrace  
>> whichever "market" you foresee as the future of choice for  
>> yourself. But if that's the case, clarity would be better served  
>> by simply declaring your support for it (and clearly bracketing  
>> what "it" is), rather than claiming that it's inevitable without  
>> some supporting reasoning.
> I haven't the vaguest idea what you are babbling about here,  
> sorry.  I am not defining a market, nor do I support a market, etc  
> etc etc.
> All I said was that if we ran out of IP space and ARIN decided to  
> facilitate transfers of allocated space, that trying to mandate  
> pricing to the participants was madness.

I think you got it just about right. If we run out of address space  
and ARIN decides to legitimize decentralized number resource  
transfers, then trying to maintain any policies, or policy processes  
or oversight of any kind would be madness. I agree with you -- which  
is why I'm suggesting something entirely different which, I believe,  
does not suffer from that same fatal flaw.



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