[ppml] Markets, pricing, transparency, 2008-2 / 8.3.9
tvest at pch.net
Mon Mar 17 12:45:55 EDT 2008
I believe that the requirements for which successive address
delegation regimes -- the RIRs included, but also each of their
successors -- were established, and were supported by the community
over time, include more than just the simple/blind distribution of IP
addresses. I believe that the community actually had the *unique*
*historically unprecedented* opportunity to exercise judgment over
such matters *only* because they fulfilled those other requirements
Since I cannot see how this suggestion would permit continued
delivery on any of the other non-optional requirements, I believe it
would lead either to the end of the community itself, and/or the
erosion and, ultimately, irretrievable loss the community's
historically unprecedented privilege of industry self-governance.
Therefore I strongly recommend that the community reject this
suggestion and get on with more realistic, sustainable alternatives.
On Mar 17, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Cliff Bedore wrote:
> At the risk of repeating myself, I think 8.3.9 should be deleted in
> entirety. All ARIN needs to do in the process is allow 3rd parties to
> transfer IP addresses directly from one party to another without being
> returned to ARIN first. The numbers must be properly registered to
> transferor and the transferee must justify the need. Other than
> that, ARIN
> should have nothing to do with the dealings of the two parties.
> They can
> trade money, resort properties or pork futures and it's nobody's
> business what
> the transaction is.
> In a prior message, I commented on other changes I think need to be
> made to
> 2008-2 but they mostly deal with the idea of ARIN having as little
> to do with
> negotiations between the 2(or more) parties and only certify the
> validity of
> the transfer.
> Remember that this policy will only take effect when ARIN is likely
> not to be
> able to meet some requirements for addresses. Why would someone
> pay money for
> something they can get for free from ARIN. If ARIN doesn't have
> it, the
> seekers of addresses should be able to get the addresses from any
> provider and there should be no need to make any details of the
> As an aside, I also agree that the SEC discussion has been noted,
> the AC and
> BoT have indicated they will look at it in further detail if 2008-2
> Cliff Bedore
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