[arin-ppml] Q1 - ARIN address transfer policy: why the trigger date?

[Scott Leibrand]

I've seen & heard a couple of arguments for waiting to start allowing 
transfers.  I'm not sure whether I find the arguments compelling or not, 
but here they are:

  - If addresses are still available "for free" from ARIN, then an 
argument has been made that the only people that would want to acquire 
addresses via transfer in advance of exhaustion would be organizations 
that don't qualify for space under current policy.
  - If, as in 2008-2, we allow the transfer of legacy class C's (/24s), 
then allowing people to start using the policy early would constitute an 
end run around the /22 limitation in the current PI policy.  In other 
words, organizations that wouldn't qualify to get PI space would be able 
to acquire it on the transfer market instead.

The main counterarguments to waiting too long to start allowing 
transfers is that we'd like to work out the kinks in the system before 
exhaustion hits, and that getting started early allows the market to 
gradually settle on a price as volume gradually increases.

-Scott

Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Let's start with a fairly simple question. The ARIN proposal says that
> the transfers it authorizes only start "when IANA allocates its last
> unallocated unicast IPv4 address block." What is the economic rationale
> for this? 
> 
> If I have too much address space now, and someone else wants it, what is
> the social benefit of requiring me to wait for IANA's "last unallocated
> unicast ipv4 address block" to be dropped? 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Leibrand [mailto:sleibrand at internap.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:11 PM
>> To: Milton L Mueller
>> Cc: Owen DeLong; Leo Bicknell
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN address transfer policy
>>
>> That works for me.  I'm particularly interested to start getting new
>> points discussed on PPML, and hopefully avoid too much rehashing of
> the
>> same debates we've already had repeatedly.  It sounds like your effort
>> will move us in the right direction there, so thanks in advance.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>> Thanks to Owen, Leo and Scott for responding.
>>>
>>> Based on what you all said, it seems as if it would be best for the
>>> questions I have to be openly stated and discussed on this list.
> Most of
>>> the AC members, if not all, are probably present here and the rest
> of
>>> the list would benefit from seeing the questions answered, as many
> of
>>> them may have the same questions in mind. I'll start soon.
>>>
>>> --MM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:35 AM
>>> *To:* Milton L Mueller
>>> *Cc:* PPML ppml
>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN address transfer policy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was a joint effort of the entire ARIN AC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Amendments can be proposed by stating what you want on the list,
> and,
>> will
>>> be implemented, if accepted, by the AC incorporating them into the
> next
>>> revision of the policy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 19, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am conducting a systematic analysis of the IPv4 Transfer Policy
>>> Proposal (2008-02). I would like to know who drafted the policy in
> order
>>> to ask questions (off list) about the rationale for certain
> features.
>>> Also would like to know more about the process by which amendments
> are
>>> proposed and implemented. Thanks,
>>>
>>> MM
>>>
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