[arin-ppml] Whois Archival Policy?

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Jun 18 13:53:34 EDT 2008


That is correct.

Owen

On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:

> I don't see anything in there about historical data: AFAICT that's  
> just talking about a bulk copy of all current whois data...
>
> -Scott
>
> heather skanks wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com 
>> >> wrote:
>>    From: http://www.47-usc-230c2.org
>>    (Seven weeks ago, during my phone conversation with ARIN officials
>>    relating to the /SF Bay Packet Radio/ IP address block, I  
>> requested
>>    from ARIN a copy of their archived WHOIS record for the
>>    134.17.0.0/16 <http://134.17.0.0/16> IP address block, as it  
>> existed
>>    on any date prior to the formation of Mr. Mulligan's /SF Bay  
>> Packet
>>    Radio, LLC/. ARIN declined my request on the basis of their lack  
>> of
>>    a "policy" under which such archival and formerly publicly  
>> available
>>    WHOIS data could be provided by ARIN to members of the media or
>>    other interested parties.)     I'd like to find out from members  
>> of the community how they feel
>>    about the idea of having such a policy.
>> Such a policy already exists.  NRPM 3.1
>> http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#three1
>>      3.1. Bulk Copies of ARIN's WHOIS
>> ARIN will provide a bulk copy of WHOIS output, including point of  
>> contact information, on the ARIN site for download by any  
>> organization that wishes to obtain the data providing they agree to  
>> ARIN's acceptable use policy. This point of contact information  
>> will not include data marked as private.
>> [The Request Form for ARIN Bulk WHOIS Data, which contains the  
>> Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) for Bulk Copies of ARIN WHOIS Data, can  
>> be found at:
>> http://www.arin.net/registration/agreements/bulkwhois.pdf]
>>     Should we develop a policy allowing ARIN to release historical  
>> WHOIS
>>    records?     Should there be  any restrictions on the  
>> circumstances under which
>>    ARIN would do so?
>>    If so, what should those restrictions be?
>>    My initial inclination is that since this is entirely data which
>>    was, at one time, publicly available, publishing it again is
>>    entirely appropriate. I can even see some valid use cases for a
>>    "whois wayback machine", such as wanting to know the history of an
>>    address block.
>>    In fairness, I have not yet asked ARIN staff about the  
>> difficulty of
>>    making such data available, so, I don't know whether this is
>>    feasible or not. I would, first, like to get a sense from the
>>    community of how they feel about development of such a policy.
>>    Thanks,
>>    Owen DeLong
>>    (Note: This is not a communication from the AC, it is my own
>>    individual question)
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