[arin-ppml] Whois Archival Policy?

Scott Leibrand sleibrand at internap.com
Wed Jun 18 12:18:19 EDT 2008


I don't see anything in there about historical data: AFAICT that's just 
talking about a bulk copy of all current whois data...

-Scott

heather skanks wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com 
> <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
> 
>     From: http://www.47-usc-230c2.org
> 
>     (Seven weeks ago, during my phone conversation with ARIN officials
>     relating to the /SF Bay Packet Radio/ IP address block, I requested
>     from ARIN a copy of their archived WHOIS record for the
>     134.17.0.0/16 <http://134.17.0.0/16> IP address block, as it existed
>     on any date prior to the formation of Mr. Mulligan's /SF Bay Packet
>     Radio, LLC/. ARIN declined my request on the basis of their lack of
>     a "policy" under which such archival and formerly publicly available
>     WHOIS data could be provided by ARIN to members of the media or
>     other interested parties.) 
> 
> 
>     I'd like to find out from members of the community how they feel
>     about the idea of having such a policy.
> 
> 
> Such a policy already exists.  NRPM 3.1
> 
> http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#three1
> 
> 
>       3.1. Bulk Copies of ARIN's WHOIS
> 
> ARIN will provide a bulk copy of WHOIS output, including point of 
> contact information, on the ARIN site for download by any organization 
> that wishes to obtain the data providing they agree to ARIN's acceptable 
> use policy. This point of contact information will not include data 
> marked as private.
> 
> [The Request Form for ARIN Bulk WHOIS Data, which contains the 
> Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) for Bulk Copies of ARIN WHOIS Data, can be 
> found at:
> 
> http://www.arin.net/registration/agreements/bulkwhois.pdf]
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>     Should we develop a policy allowing ARIN to release historical WHOIS
>     records? 
> 
> 
>     Should there be  any restrictions on the circumstances under which
>     ARIN would do so?
> 
>     If so, what should those restrictions be?
> 
>     My initial inclination is that since this is entirely data which
>     was, at one time, publicly available, publishing it again is
>     entirely appropriate. I can even see some valid use cases for a
>     "whois wayback machine", such as wanting to know the history of an
>     address block.
> 
>     In fairness, I have not yet asked ARIN staff about the difficulty of
>     making such data available, so, I don't know whether this is
>     feasible or not. I would, first, like to get a sense from the
>     community of how they feel about development of such a policy.
> 
>     Thanks,
> 
>     Owen DeLong
> 
>     (Note: This is not a communication from the AC, it is my own
>     individual question)
> 
> 
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