[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-6

Kyle Banks kbanks at giantcomm.net
Wed Dec 31 10:09:06 EST 2008


Nice Presentation Randy... I think the liquidity graph hit it right on the
head... without problems, or turmoil there is no space for profit... take
the Gas prices for example, we have several problems in a row I.E. Fires at
factories, Spills, and the war in Iraq, and the Oil industry is the field
that gets all the attention, first trickling down to the airlines, then to
the auto industry which is now in jeopardy while the Oil industry has now
calmed down with the lack of problems...

 As far as the black market goes, we have all seen, or possibly been a part
of the "black market"... the simple definition of the "black market" is to
acquire goods or services without traveling through the proper channels,
I.E. taking the easier, less-expensive, or possibly illegal road... piracy
of software, videos, or audio clips; along with completing a job while
working "under the table" I.E. not reporting your income to the IRS is now
seen as the most common activities within the "black market"... Now don't
get me wrong, Yes, there are some people out there who would and do utilize
the "black market" to acquire illegal drugs, guns, weapons, and even
children and organs... I'm just simply pointing out that it isn't as intense
as it may appear to be on television...

Just my .02

 
 
Kyle V. Banks
Service/Technical Representative
Giant Communications
785-362-9331 EXT. 108
kbanks at giantcomm.net
 
 

-- Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be
disappointed--Benjamin Franklin

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
Behalf Of Randy Bush
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:42 AM
To: Kevin Kargel
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-6

> I have often wondered about this "black market" myself..  everyone talks
> about it, but in 15+ years of working in Internet I have never been
> approached and offered IP addresses for sale.  I have never seen anyone
> offer them, and searching even on newsgroups and other forums I have not
> seen offers of network for money.  I have seen netblocks hijacked, but not
> illicitly sold.  I believe it has happened, but I do not think the
frequency
> of it happening is quite the problem it is touted to be.

head in sand and you expect to see things?  well, to have it rubbed in 
your nose, see 
http://rosie.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-57/presentations/uploads/Tuesday/Ad
dress%20Policy%202/upl/van_Mook-2007-08_v3.fx3k.pps

randy
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