[arin-ppml] Stepping forward, opening my mouth and removing all doubt about

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Wed Aug 27 12:46:48 EDT 2008


Of course I mean...David.... 

Great point Dan, and I for one, on the Advisory Council will take this
idea and bring it back for discussion!

Bill Darte
ARIN AC

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of David Farmer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:34 AM
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Stepping forward,opening my mouth 
> and removing all doubt about
> 
> For those who complain about the lack of participation PLEASE 
> TAKE NOTE of this.  It is an excellent critique of how we do 
> things on PPML.  As the ARIN Board works on revising the 
> Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process (IRPEP) maybe 
> another role for the Advisory Council (AC) is to provide a 
> summary of both sides of the argument and pointers to more 
> information.  In Denver there was talk of web forums and 
> other tools for input that might make this a little easier. 
> 
> On 27 Aug 2008 Stewart Dean wrote:
> 
> > how clueless I am.
> > 
> > At some point, I joined this list because something I was doing 
> > related to it. In the course of time, either from 
> membership here or 
> > because I'm the Tech POC for 12 Class Cs, I got the transfer policy 
> > questionnaire, and I rarely felt my ignorance so keenly.  I 
> had only 
> > the vaguest idea of what the questions meant, much less having an 
> > informed opinion of them.  I spent some time over the next 3 days 
> > flogging Google and www.arin.net to try to educate myself.  
> At the end 
> > of that exercise, I understood something about questions 
> and was able 
> > to respond to them....but I really never did find much that spoke 
> > clearly and unequivocally on what they were about.  Why 
> wasn't there a 
> > linked resource explaining the background of each question, 
> the pros 
> > and cons or each side?  All the documentation I could find was 
> > scattered here and there and was colorless and 
> passive-voiced...like 
> > reading a telephone book....yes, there was data but what 
> did it mean?
> > What is a liberalized transfer policy?  Whose ox is getting 
> gored?  I 
> > guess this is a minefield and perhaps saying anything would 
> > precipitate a flame-war, but what doc there was related 
> poorly or in 
> > such an inobvious way that it didn't make much clear.  Like 
> presenting 
> > a Noh play in Wichita...*whatever* are those people doing 
> and talking 
> > about????
> > 
> > BTW, one of the problems about being sysadmin in a small 
> shop is that 
> > you have to be a Shiva Nataraja generalist in a world of rapidly 
> > expanding requirements and areas of expertise...and unless you're a 
> > glow-in-the-dark genius with an eidetic memory, your 
> ignorance grows 
> > exponentially.
> > 
> > :(
> > 
> > --
> > ====
> > Stewart Dean, Unix System Admin, Henderson Computer 
> Resources Center 
> > of Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York  12504 
> sdean at bard.edu  
> > voice: 845-758-7475, fax: 845-758-7035 
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