[ppml] IPv6 flawed?
Ted Mittelstaedt
tedm at ipinc.net
Mon Sep 17 15:54:44 EDT 2007
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [mailto:iljitsch at muada.com]
>Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:13 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Kevin Kargel; ppml at arin.net
>Subject: Re: [ppml] IPv6 flawed?
>
>
>On 17-sep-2007, at 20:02, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>[cut illuminating example]
>
>> For the people that talk about IPv6 renumbering like you just flip a
>> switch and change the prefix in the router, may I humbly suggest
>> you are out of your fricking mind.
>
>Somehow, deep within myself, I find the ability to not care much
>about the plight of these people. On the IETF list, a number of
>people have been arguing that it's possible to design an IPv6 network
>such that renumbering it is doable. Others have argued that there are
>numerous designs that make renumbering very hard.
>
>Both are right. The questions are: how much is an organization
>prepared to pay to avoid renumbering, and how much is the community
>prepared to pay to make things such that certain organizations don't
>have to renumber?
These payments are wildly variable and the amounts affect the decision.
The first guy to duplicate PI and NAT with IPv6 will pay a lot. The next
guy behind him will pay a bit less. And so on, until the day we have
$49.95 Linksys routers for sale at Fry's that do IPv6 translation. At
that point it is completely immaterial what the community is willing to
pay or not, to allow or disallow something, because the market will have
bypassed the community.
Ted
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