[ppml] ripe-55/presentations/bush-ipv6-transition.pdf
Brian Dickson
briand at ca.afilias.info
Fri Oct 26 14:34:39 EDT 2007
John Curran wrote:
>>> Randy wrote:
>>> and, given a choice of
>>> o un/itu/... regulation
>>> o national government regulation
>>> o regulation by the rirs
>>> o an open market
>>> i strongly suspect that the latter will produce as 'fair' a
>>> distribution of resources as any of the former.[...]
>>>
> I believe that Randy's point is that an open market will likely
> result in availability of address blocks to all ISP's, both large
> and small, and this might not happen in some of the possible
> choices before us.
>
>
> /John
>
> p.s. Of course, depending on the particular rules of the "open"
> market, there can be a higher probability of block fragmentation
> since there's more value in providing (n) sites with unique blocks
> than one site with a block (n) times larger.
Everything depends on the meaning and contect of "open".
Per Ben Edelman (who has been engaged as a consultant by ARIN and who
spoke on IP markets),
getting into the details of how a market might operate, before deciding
that a white market should
exist and/or be operated/facilitated by {ARIN|RIRs|IANA|whoever}, is
putting the cart before the horse
(to paraphrase).
My $0.02 is:
I think the "open" in open market should be primarily limited to
pricing. Anyone with address space should
be able to ask for whatever $$$ they think they can get.
However, I think that, since there is more than a mere commodity aspect
to IP address blocks, that some
additional regulation would be needed to prevent disasterous outcomes.
Things to avoid:
- market manipulation by collusion, cartels, or any other kind of
deliberate action
- direct sales between parties (this is something better characterized
as "grey" or "black" market)
- speculation, cornering of the market, or other blanket market abuse by
those with deep pockets
- purchases directly by recipients, without approval or intermediation
by RIRs or similar agents (to prevent inappropriate allocation of resources)
- deaggregation
Things to encourage:
- transparency of operation of the market
- blind, double-blind, or N-tuple blind market
- separation of the two sides of the market, i.e. those selling blocks
and those buying, by RIR-type entity (who is also "blind")
- aggregation between return of blocks to RIR-type entity, and
allocation/sale to RIR customers
- decoupling buying/selling aspects by way of combined purchasing pool
- decoupling funding of purchases from allocation (effectively turning
"purchasing" into "donating to the fund for getting space back into the
RIR pool")
- creating contingency-blocking "trees" similar to real-estate
"chains"-of-conditional-purchases, e.g. in real-estate, there can be
multiple transactions which
are effectively blocked, until a transaction which has no conditions
on it, is able to trigger the completion of all of the transactions in
the chain. This can be
extended with a non-trivial dependency topology, where N:1 and 1:N
branching/merging of transaction sets, trigger "go/no-go" events on the
whole tree.
- coupling contingency-based bidding/donating with purchase&allocate
events - someone's donation gets accepted iff their allocation request
is satisfied
It's a highly non-trivial kind of thing to delve into, but IMHO
something which can work very well, *and* actually has some chance to
improve the aggregation
situation in IPv4.
Imagine getting some return on the effort involved in renumbering, when
previously the only benefit was knowing you were doing "the right thing".
Brian
More information about the ARIN-PPML
mailing list