[ppml] getting converts to V6

[Lee Dilkie]

Howard, W. Lee wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net] On 
>> Behalf Of Lee Dilkie
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:25 PM
>> I can also see you throw the "justify" and "need" words 
>> about. The plain truth is this.. You "need" to move people 
>> over to IPv6. They are not going to go willingly unless you 
>> can offset the cost. The "need" is *yours*, not theirs. The 
>> cost should also be *yours*. (and lets be honest, there is no 
>> real cost to assigning a number).
>>     
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>
> Pronoun trouble.  Who are "you" and "they"?
>   
My bad. I forget that many on the list are not english speaking as a
first language.

"You" refers to producers of IP address space, in this case ARIN and
ARIN's members, the ISPs. I'm not included in that list as I am not an
ARIN member and as I've been made painfully aware, not entitled to
making policy decisions. If I were an ARIN member, I would have used the
term "we".

"They" refers to the consumers of IP address space, the end customers
for the most part. It's those folks who need to be convinced to make the
move to IPv6.

If all the dire predictions are true, the producers will be out of a job
unless they can convince the consumers to switch to the new address
space. Not unlike Microsoft's efforts to convince us that a new OS is a
"must have" every few years.... As others have said (and my mechanical
engineering prof first told me), you can't push a rope. You need to make
it a compelling decision. Going about this like a typical government
organization is not the way to reach your goals. Throwing up artificial
costs is hardly a good start...
> Cost of assigning a number includes the time to evaluate the
> request, time to record it, and maintenance of the recording
> system, not to mention infrastructure around it.  
>   
No offense. But the cost of assigning me a drivers license, including
all the testing and whatnot, is *far* less than ARIN's fees. Someone is
making a boatload of money here. Or wasting a boatload. Either way, my
original statement stands.

> Lee
>
>   
-lee