[ppml] getting converts to V6
David Conrad
drc at virtualized.org
Thu May 17 01:27:43 EDT 2007
On May 16, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
>> So, why isn't your complaint that no one has built a good,
>> reasonable,
>> easy method or tool for renumbering
> been there, done that, got the t-shirt. (A6 and DNAME.)
A t-shirt would likely have worked better in supporting renumbering
than A6 and DNAME...
(I think that dead horse isn't even organic residue anymore)
>> or developed an assignment scheme or way of routing that would allow
>> you to not have to renumber or renumber entirely?
>
> in the IPng wars, many folks asserted that without a solution to the
> routing problem, adding more address bits would both fail to solve
> existing problems and also make existing problems worse and also cause
> new problems. as you can see, those folks lost the war. ("too
> little,
> too soon." --tli)
Sorry, what problem? I've been told "just build bigger routers" so
many times now, maybe a million lemmings might not be wrong.
>> There's more than one way to handle a problem. Why must PI always
>> be the
>> answer? (because the other is harder? takes more time? more
>> collaboration?
> because it's the knob we have, on the mechanism we have, rather
> than the knob
> we wish we had on the mechanism we don't have.
Given the state of affairs, namely:
- all RIRs are liberalizing PI allocation policies.
- many believe there is no problem in routing that can't be solved by
throwing bigger/faster (although they admit, not necessarily cheaper)
boxes at it.
- the IETF appears to have gone into navel gazing wait state.
It is difficult for me to envision a future where there will be any
significant change to IPv6 architecture that might permit realistic
site-wide renumbering. But we have time yet...
Rgds,
-drc
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