[ppml] getting converts to V6

[Owen DeLong]

Because renumbering almost always involves configuration changes  
required
on devices I don't control.  That makes renumbering inherently  
problematic.

Owen

On May 16, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Heather Schiller wrote:

>
> So, why isn't your complaint that no one has built a good, reasonable,
> easy method or tool for renumbering or developed an assignment  
> scheme or
> way of routing that would allow you to not have to renumber or  
> renumber
> entirely?   There's more than one way to handle a problem.  Why  
> must PI
> always be the answer?  (because the other is harder? takes more time?
> more collaboration? __?)
>
> --Heather
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007, John Paul Morrison wrote:
>
>> Privilege?  That sounds very elitist. I would consider it a right  
>> to be
>> ISP independent. I can take my phone numbers with me - home, business
>> and even cell phone numbers now.  So my ISP is allowed to hold  
>> "my" IP
>> addresses and therefore my businesses hostage (for the greater  
>> good of
>> the Internet), actually making the phone system more open and
>> competitive? Scary thought.
>>
>> I can't argue with the technical reasons for PA addresses, but  
>> setting
>> the bar too high for PI addresses is very anti-competitive - not that
>> the big ISPs are complaining.
>>
>>
>> Heather Schiller wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007, Jeroen Massar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> That's a big expense just to be ISP independent.
>>>>>
>>>> It is indeed a huge privilege to be ISP independent. It takes a  
>>>> lot of
>>>> knowledge and investment of various things to do it correctly.
>>>> If you are incapable of doing that, then please don't. There are  
>>>> enough
>>>> unmanaged networks on the Internet already and really another  
>>>> couple of
>>>> them is something to avoid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ARIN's frugle policy is killing the Internet off for all but  
>>>>> the rich.
>>>>> ARIN's annual budget is 10 million dollars, the fat cats need  
>>>>> to just give
>>>>> out the rest of the Ips already so we can move on to the next  
>>>>> stage of the
>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>
>>
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