[ppml] policies at ARIN Re: Proposed Policy: IPv4 Countdown

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

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>Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:50 AM
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>Subject: Re: [ppml] policies at ARIN Re: Proposed Policy: IPv4 Countdown
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>> I see the proposal as having to be something that goes to IANA or be 
>> global.  To get there it has to be discussed in all regions.  Maybe I 
>> don't understand the global policy process, maybe there's a check-box 
>> that was missed.
>> "Public Policy" means public.  I am a SIG chair in the APNIC region 
>> but my desk is near Washington DC.  There is no "they" and "us" when 
>> it comes to the public discussion of the RIRs.
>
>REGIONAL Internet Registry means Regional. Even though my desk is in
>London, England, my company relies on ARIN as the prime supplier of
>network addresses and our network in the USA is the core of our success
>as a business. Even though many of us particpate in other regional fora,
>including other RIRs, the fact is that the system still allows for
>in-region policy-making.
>
>I wish the NRO web page was more clear on global policy proposals but it
>did seem to me that one should submit a proposal to them first, before
>it goes to the RIRs. That way we, at the RIR level, only have to deal
>with well-crafted and well thought-out global policy proposals.
>
>> I may have made more proposal-specific comments here than I intended. 
>> The message I am sending is that the roughness here is another reason 
>> I have been asking for a more robust, committee-like approach for 
>> preliminary discussion about ARIN policies and more 
>> technically-motivated discussion about service levels and the like.
>
>Personally, I think the problem is with the proposal submitters. We have
>a discussion list here. No one says that you can't discuss a proposal
>before submitting it. Why don't more people bounce around an idea and
>get several opinions on the policy and its wording, before submitting
>it.

This is a rhetorical question.

We all know why some proposal submitters don't bounce ideas around first.
It is because they are convinced that their idea is perfect the way it
is and they aren't open to suggestions for modification.  After all it
takes a giant ego to make the assumption that you have a solution to a
problem that is better than any other solution anyone else hasn't thought
of yet.  Such egos are necessary to shepherd an idea through to
implementation, but they are usually pretty rotten about accepting
suggestions for alternatives, it is just the nature of the beast.

Ted