[ppml] ARIN Outreach to Legacy Holders

Davis, Terry L terry.l.davis at boeing.com
Fri Jul 6 12:15:45 EDT 2007


Leo

Not a bad approach; it would give ARIN some control of the transfer
process then.  Your second sentence needs a bit of a touch-up; it
doesn't seem to read quite right.

Take care
Terry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bicknell at ufp.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:39 AM
> To: ARIN PPML
> Subject: Re: [ppml] ARIN Outreach to Legacy Holders
> 
> In a message written on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 02:57:46PM +0000, Paul
Vixie
> wrote:
> > i think the reason there are no instructions is that we don't know
what
> > they should say.  "if you have a /16 that you would not qualify for
> under
> > current rules, then as a legacy holder upgrading to RSA, you
[may][may
> not]
> > keep this address space."  riddle me that, batman.
> 
> A number of people have stood up and said that ARIN made a promise
> to the legacy holders that they would exist under the status-quo
> "forever".  Randy has provided the only hard evidence I have seen,
> and it's a single bullet point in a presentation prior to ARIN's
> formation.
> 
> That has, however, continued to be the status-quo for 10+ years
> now.  It has also been the status quo that if you want to transfer
> the block to someone else, you trigger a review and the new recipient
> must sign an RSA.
> 
> Of course, council would have to put this into legalese, most
> likely by altering the RSA for legacy holders but I think something
> along the lines of:
> 
> "As an original owner of a legacy address space block you may
> continue to use the address space forever for your own purposes.
> As a legacy holder you will not be subjected to ARIN's policies for
> legacy space holders for the legacy blocks only, and will not be
> subject to audit by ARIN for those legacy blocks.
> 
> Any sale, lease, or transfer of the block or a portion of the block
> to a party outside the original owners control will require that
> the new recipient sign a current RSA and agree to abide by all of
> ARIN's policies for address space assignment.
> 
> Failure to maintain contact information for the block, or to pay
> the $100 per year maintenance fee will result in forfeiture of the
> block.  The $100 per year fee will never change."
> 
> Quite simply, an original legacy holder gets their (so claimed)
> implied contract put on paper, and we codify in that paper that it
> is in fact a non-transferable agreement.  I think for the legacy
> holders to have a formal contract with that written down would be
> seen as a huge win for them, and would constitute giving them
> something.  At the same time, they would be under an RSA, and ARIN
> would have a legal stick to help curtail any black market in IP's
> that may appear.
> 
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