[ppml] Policy Proposal: Resource Reclamation Incentives

[Michael K. Smith - Adhost]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:stephen at sprunk.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:41 PM
> To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost; Owen DeLong; William Herrin
> Cc: ARIN Address Policy
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Policy Proposal: Resource Reclamation Incentives
> 
> Thus spake "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" <mksmith at adhost.com>
> > That's an interesting point.  It sounds to me as if the ultimate
> > depletion of IPv4 space is not going to be put off to any great
> > degree by reclaiming the old swamp space.
> 
> Projections say it'll buy us six months.  Even if it's year or two,
> that's
> still of dubious benefit in the long run.
> 
> > And, ARIN has guidelines for acquiring new space based
> > upon need/justification as defined by previous allocations.
> > If it's true that reclamation is not going to help us to any great
> > degree, why not focus our efforts on writing language to
> > allow entities to use swamp space as justification for IPv6
> > allocations, but not provide any particular incentives beyond
> > that?
> 
> That's how things work for v4, but it's not how things work for v6.
As
> it
> stands, all one needs for a v6 allocation is to be an "existing, known
> ISP"
> or have a plan to make 200 assignments, and all one needs for a v6
> assignment is to qualify for a v4 assignment.
> 
> Presumably, anyone with v4 swamp space already meets the relevant
> standard,
> so what needs to be changed?  Can you provide an example of someone
> with v4
> swamp space who _isn't_ elligible for v6 space already but should be?
> 

I think we're on the same page here.  We (not you and I) seem to be
overly concerned with incenting or dis-incenting the swamp holders into
returning their space to ARIN.  If they can get IPv6 space with no
hassles and there are no real benefits to reclaiming the space in terms
of buying us additional time in a IPv4 world, why do we care?  I'm not
sure how modifying ARIN policy in regards to swamp holders is going to
promote the transition to IPv6.

Regards,

Michael K. Smith
mksmith at adhost.com (work)
mksmith at mac.com (!work)