[ppml] 2003-3

[Marshall Eubanks]

And the Philippines

On Jan 19, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:

> If you want to do that, then, "Non specific Postal Code country  
> dependent"
> is a more desirable wording.  The term ZIP code applies to exactly  
> one country.
>
> Owen
>
> On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Azinger, Marla wrote:
>
>> If you mean what happens "if the zip code structure changes", good  
>> point.  This is why the rewording I suggested did not get specific  
>> down to the digits.  The term "non specific zip code country  
>> dependent" leaves it open for restructuring of zip codes and  
>> simply states that that the most non specific form of a zip code  
>> is what must be registered.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marla Azinger
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme at multicasttech.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:07 AM
>> To: Azinger, Marla
>> Cc: ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [ppml] 2003-3
>>
>>
>> So, what happens when the ZIP code changes ?
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Azinger, Marla wrote:
>>
>>> Below is a short discussion on 2003-3 that was not posted to ppml
>>> by accident on my part.  I now post this for involvment by anyone
>>> else interested:
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marla Azinger
>>>
>>>
>>> ****************************************
>>>
>>> No.  Now you've allowed them to eliminate everything except the ZIP
>>> code.
>>>
>>> First, let me say that I do not think that there is any flaw in the
>>> current
>>> policy or ARIN's interpretation thereof, except that I would rather
>>> preserve
>>> the Name as a visible object.
>>>
>>> However, if we are going to further reduce the usefulness of  
>>> whois, I
>>> would
>>> rather constrain that reduction to the smallest amount possible.
>>>
>>> An acceptable rewording might be:
>>>
>>> Section <insert number here> of the NRPM is modified to allow
>>> residential
>>> customer postal codes in Canada to be abbreviated to the first three
>>> characters of the Postal Code.  Further, it is clarified that in the
>>> US, the 5 digit ZIP code is acceptable for all entries.
>>>
>>> That is a policy I would not oppose.
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Azinger, Marla wrote:
>>>
>>>> So would a reasonable rewording of this proposal be the following:
>>>>
>>>>      An organization with downstream residential customers may
>>>>      substitute that organization's name for the customer's name,
>>>>      e.g. 'Private customer - XYZ Network', and the customer's
>>>>      address may be replaced with 'Private Residence', excluding
>>>> the zip code.
>>>>      Non specific Zip codes must be included and specific building/
>>>> structure location zip 	codes are not to be sumbitted.
>>>> Specification of specific versus non specific zip code 	is country
>>>> dependant. Each private downstream residential reassignment must
>>>> have 	accurate upstream Abuse and Technical POCs visible on the
>>>> WHOIS record for that
>>>>      block.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marla Azinger
>>>> ELI and Frontier
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Owen DeLong
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:45 PM
>>>> To: Member Services
>>>> Subject: Re: [ppml] Proposed Policy: Residential Customer Privacy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I absolutely oppose this policy as written.  Excluding the entire
>>>> address
>>>> removes the possibility of using the small claims court process  
>>>> as a
>>>> means of remedy for network abuse, at least in several states  
>>>> within
>>>> the united States.  I think that would be an undesirable policy
>>>> effect.
>>>>
>>>> Removing the City, State, and Postal code information would also
>>>> reduce
>>>> the availability of useful data for geographic address distribution
>>>> research which has been identified as valuable by several
>>>> participants
>>>> on the list and at previous policy meetings.
>>>>
>>>> I would be more willing to accept a policy which allowed limitation
>>>> of ZIP codes to 5 digit ZIP codes or limitation of Canadian Postal
>>>> Codes to the first 3 characters.  These modifications should be
>>>> sufficient to address the privacy concerns raised in recent
>>>> discussions
>>>> on the list.
>>>>
>>>> Owen
>>>>
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