[ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information

[william(at)elan.net]

I would not accept this.

But would you accept if you were not required to publish info at all
for blocks quite a bit larger then current /29 (i.e. raise publication
limits so that most small business customers do not have to be listed)?

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Divins, David wrote:

> Just to repeat, we are talking about corporate privacy:
>
> I would be happy with:
>
> Private Company
> 20166
> UpStrean Abuse contact info
>
> -dsd
>
> David Divins
> Principal Engineer
> ServerVault Corp.
> (703) 652-5955
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Azinger, Marla [mailto:marla_azinger at eli.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:12 AM
> To: Aaron Hughes
> Cc: Christopher Morrow; Divins, David; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information
>
> I agree we need policy that gives residential privacy but at the same
> time supports the "research" community.
>
> ie Mandatory info is:
>
> Residential
> 23456
> upstream abuse contact info
>
> or
>
> Residential
> 3V6 (hope I got that right.  Not sure if canadian postal starts with
> number or letter) upstream abuse contact info
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Hughes [mailto:aaronh at bind.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:03 AM
> To: Azinger, Marla
> Cc: Christopher Morrow; Divins, David; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information
>
>
> Marla, agreed.
>
> The current methodology is simply to lie, so while several people may
> have issues with protecting this data, we need to find a way to create a
> policy to allow for this privacy in order to get accurate data imho.
>
> Aaron
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 07:56:34AM -0700, Azinger, Marla wrote:
>> I'm not sure if I interpreted Davids question correctly.  However,
> RWHOIS does not permit Privacy that isnt allowed on ARIN WHOIS.  The
> information on RWHOIS should be identical to what would be on ARIN
> WHOIS.
>>
>> Marla
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
>
>> Christopher Morrow
>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:42 AM
>> To: Divins, David
>> Cc: ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information
>>
>>
>> On 4/7/06, Divins, David <dsd at servervault.com> wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Provided an ISP, or other direct assignment recipient, supplies
>>> valid and responsive (24x7) Abuse, NOC, and other pertinent contact
>>> information, a reassignment should be allowed to remain private.
>>>
>>> This has been discussed before and abandoned
>>> (http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2004_6.html).  However, I feel
>
>>> this issue needs to be raised again as it is more important than
> ever.
>>>
>>> There are ample valid reasons for a reassignment to remain private.
>>>
>>> ISP's may not want their customers to be mined via a public service.
>>> Many companies only use their assignment for private business
>>> exchanges and do not want a public vector into their block.  HIPAA
>>> clearing facilities, banking exchanges, procurement systems are all
>>> example of viable private reassignments.
>>>
>>
>> I might have missed something in the policy and this note... but,
>> doesn't the ability to use rwhois and limit access to 'arin' solve
>> this privacy issue as well? With this capability perhaps the need to
>> construct policy around privacy of information isn't necessary?
>>
>> -Chris
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