[ppml] IPv6>>32
bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com
bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com
Wed May 11 20:03:07 EDT 2005
> >
> > On May 10, 2005, at 3:32 AM, Michael.Dillon at radianz.com wrote:
> > > Some people will switch providers on a daily basis.
> >
> > I am somewhat skeptical that people will switch providers as you
> > suggest when it takes end-user intervention to implement that
> > switch. Renumbering remains a non-trivial exercise. Connections
> > break. Firewall rules change. Network management objects have to be
> > updated. Etc. Until renumbering is addressed (no pun intended), I
> > suspect the scenarios of *ANs switching providers rapidly will remain
> > a fantasy.
>
> You appear to be thinking in terms of existing fixed networks and the
> cumbersome tools that vendors provide for managing those. It is not hard to
> imagine a personal area and/or vehicle network where the handset/router
> changes providers between available short range and long range radios over
> fairly short time periods. Renumbering is not a complex task. The tools that
> allow it to happen are currently cumbersome, but that does not mean they
> can't be automated. In fact it is not all that hard to imagine a fully
> automated set top that switches service between power line, cable, dsl,
> fiber, metro-wireless, or satellite based on which service had the lowest
> rates today.
moving their BGP peering links, DNS servers, SNMP traps,
syslog collectors et.al... peice of cake. No real problems
with any of these things.. right? any issues w/ radius or
other accounting logs? didn't think so.
yes, i can imagine a settop box that
is able to swap out the highorder bits btwn several providers
based on some metric suite. i can also imagine the grief i would
go through trying to explain that the 96 low-order bits that seem
to be mine attached to an invoice - for service i did not receive.
(seems that some perp had changed his low-order bits to match mine
and then freq-hopped btwn service providers - with MY addresses!)
rapid, painless renumbering will only be effective when/if
there is a clear, clean separation btwn the topology locator
and the node identifier. HIP might work. the bastardized construct
that is IPv6 today will -NEVER- do transparent, easy, painless
renumbering. Of course, YMMV and i might have a tiny bias here.
--bill (ex chair of the PIER w/g)
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