[ppml] Deaggregation in the ARIN region Was: [nanog] The Ci dr Report

[Jon Lewis]

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Bill Darte wrote:

> BCPs for BGP appearing on ARIN's website, you say. Well, it is possible that
> if you forwarded some they might be posted....but then again who would
> maintain them? Perhaps you know of a link to such?
>
> I'm thinking that BCPs for the routing infrastructure sounds more like an
> operational issue.  Is the educational effort you suggest not more
> appropriate to NANOG than to ARIN?

It probably is, but I'd wager a large percentage of ARIN "members"
(assuming everyone with an ASN assigned by ARIN is a "member", even
though they don't appear to be based on
http://www.arin.net/membership/index.html) have never been to a NANOG
meeting or heard of the mailing list.

It seems to me there are at least 2 classes of deaggregators...the big NSP
types who certainly should have engineering staff who know better but for
whatever reasons choose to deaggregate, and the small network/ISP who may
not even have PI space, but deaggregates whatever they do have into /24s
because that's how someone set it up for them, and it's not broken as far
as they can tell.

You probably can't help the first class without waving a stick at them.
The second class just needs a little education that could be provided in
the form of some "helpful URLs" on "BGP and the internet community" when
they receive their ASN.

> Also, there was significant outreach from ARIN to identify education that
> its stakeholders wanted and it was met with deafening silence...even when it
> was quite widely know what effort was underway in other regions.  Should
> ARIN allocate resources to such effort when there is no evidence that such
> an investment would be valued by those that pay the bills?

I'm not suggesting a training program that would require
"resources"...just a few links and/or short paragraphs on BGP, and how to
be a good netizen with it.  The sort of thing that could be thrown
together by one person in an afternoon or less.

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