[ppml] Question on policy evaluation process and last call petition

william(at)elan.net william at elan.net
Mon May 24 15:40:41 EDT 2004

  I have a question if policy evaluation process allows for last call
petitions for policies that are presented by AC. It seems that it doesn't 
this creates a serious flow in the process as it allows AC to take over a 
policy and present it and even get quite positive response but then drop
it without allowing anybody to question their judgement..
  Obviously we have an example right in front of us in policy 2003-16 
which received fairly positive reaction on last meeting (13:2 for it) 
but AC wants to drop it. I note that while AC is considered an author, 
there seems to have been disagreement in AC on if this policy should be 
dropped so perhaps somebody from AC (but not AC as a whole) can be allowed 
to petition for it or alternatively since this policy was being worked
as means of expressing desires of 2003-1 and 2003-2 proposals, perhaps
author of one of those can be allowed to petition. I do hope this policy
does not die because it has support of substantial portion of the 
community and AC is not really doing good job in deciding in represening
these views when they say "there exists consensus to abandon the proposal"

Also I'll be petitioning for 2003-9 within next couple days. Currently I'm 
trying to find time (I was in IETF WG meeting last week and NANOG is 
this week and I had reunion to go to on weekend) to update the history 
page I made year ago when same thing happened with AC dropping all 
private proposals presented at meeting. In any case I wanted to find if 
its ok if I publish the response by ARIN legal council that was forwarded 
to me two months ago or if its considered ARIN private work document that 
can not be disclosed. 

Also I want to know if 5 days from the announcementto drop policy to do 
petition is considered 5 working days or any 5 days, usually for companies
number of days is considered to mean workdays (no weekend), but ARIN is 
not company but non-profit ORG so this is not clear. To me its important 
because if its 5 normal days I maybe one day too late if I can only start 
petition after NANOG meeting. It does seem that it would be better to 
just specify a week (instead of 5 days) as it drops this issue with 
meaning of the day all together.

William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william at elan.net

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