[ppml] allocate/assign

bmanning at karoshi.com bmanning at karoshi.com
Thu Oct 23 17:55:01 EDT 2003


	actually, working on the fringes of the "classic"
	ISP/hierarchical models that form the basis of
	98+% of RIR delegations does occasionally require
	coming "back to the well".  

> 
> Well it isn't like you're going to need any. You have enough 
> legacy space  :-)
> 
>     From: bmanning at karoshi.com
>     Subject: Re: [ppml] allocate/assign
>     
>     	like I said, -MY- thoughts.  guess I won't be 
>     	getting any  Internet Protocol resources from
>     	ARIN anytime soon.
>     
>     > 
>     > Well the definition in use by all the ISPs I know of and defined
>     > by ARIN is as I have stated.  So you would be in violation.
>     > 
>     > ---CJ
>     > 
>     >     From: bmanning at karoshi.com
>     >     Subject: Re: [ppml] allocate/assign
>     >     
>     >     	that may be true in your world... :)
>     >     	
>     >     	I am of the opinion that if I am granted a delegation
>     >     	that I need to apply the principles of stewardship, e.g.
>     >     	effective utilization of the space ... if that means that
>     >     	I have an operational model that allows me to sub-assign
>     >     	and sub-allocate space using the same rules for management
>     >     	of the delegation for users of my space as apply to me.
>     >     
>     >     	note that "my" here refers not to ownership of the space
>     >     	but ownership of the responsiblity for effective stewardship.
>     >     
>     >     
>     >     > Bill,
>     >     > 
>     >     > Allocations can be broken up into assignments and given to customers,
>     >     > but assignments can not be further delegated to other organizations, 
>     >     > or customers.  
>     >     > 
>     >     > ----CJ
>     >     > 
>     >     >     From: bmanning at karoshi.com
>     >     >     Subject: [ppml] allocate/assign
>     >     >     
>     >     >     Ok...
>     >     >     
>     >     >     	grousing about terms leads me to put my personal thoughts to
>     >     >     	phosphor (or LCD analog):
>     >     >     
>     >     >     allocated:  Internet resources earmarked for specific use. period.
>     >     >     assigned:   an allocation is bound to a duely vetted party who agrees
>     >     >     	    to manage the allocation according to the "principles of
>     >     >     	    stewardship" (from the ARIN mission stmt)
>     >     >     
>     >     >     	such an assignment is considered delegated when such allocations 
>     >     >     	and assignments are published - say via whois and DNS, perhaps 
>     >     >     	in an rdb.
>     >     >     
>     >     >     	thoughts?
>     >     >     --bill
>     >     > 
>     >     
>     > 
>     
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