[ppml] allocate/assign
bmanning at karoshi.com
bmanning at karoshi.com
Thu Oct 23 17:55:01 EDT 2003
actually, working on the fringes of the "classic"
ISP/hierarchical models that form the basis of
98+% of RIR delegations does occasionally require
coming "back to the well".
>
> Well it isn't like you're going to need any. You have enough
> legacy space :-)
>
> From: bmanning at karoshi.com
> Subject: Re: [ppml] allocate/assign
>
> like I said, -MY- thoughts. guess I won't be
> getting any Internet Protocol resources from
> ARIN anytime soon.
>
> >
> > Well the definition in use by all the ISPs I know of and defined
> > by ARIN is as I have stated. So you would be in violation.
> >
> > ---CJ
> >
> > From: bmanning at karoshi.com
> > Subject: Re: [ppml] allocate/assign
> >
> > that may be true in your world... :)
> >
> > I am of the opinion that if I am granted a delegation
> > that I need to apply the principles of stewardship, e.g.
> > effective utilization of the space ... if that means that
> > I have an operational model that allows me to sub-assign
> > and sub-allocate space using the same rules for management
> > of the delegation for users of my space as apply to me.
> >
> > note that "my" here refers not to ownership of the space
> > but ownership of the responsiblity for effective stewardship.
> >
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > Allocations can be broken up into assignments and given to customers,
> > > but assignments can not be further delegated to other organizations,
> > > or customers.
> > >
> > > ----CJ
> > >
> > > From: bmanning at karoshi.com
> > > Subject: [ppml] allocate/assign
> > >
> > > Ok...
> > >
> > > grousing about terms leads me to put my personal thoughts to
> > > phosphor (or LCD analog):
> > >
> > > allocated: Internet resources earmarked for specific use. period.
> > > assigned: an allocation is bound to a duely vetted party who agrees
> > > to manage the allocation according to the "principles of
> > > stewardship" (from the ARIN mission stmt)
> > >
> > > such an assignment is considered delegated when such allocations
> > > and assignments are published - say via whois and DNS, perhaps
> > > in an rdb.
> > >
> > > thoughts?
> > > --bill
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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