[ppml] RE: [arin-announce] Policy Proposal 2003-3: Residential Customer Privacy

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Mar 17 16:01:09 EST 2003


I would oppose the original proposal, although my energy has been focused on
2003-1a.  I would certainly not take silence on 2003-3 as consent.  Taking
it the further step you mention is even worse.

Owen


--On Monday, March 17, 2003 3:55 PM -0500 "Whipple, Scott (CCI-Atlanta)" 
<Scott.Whipple at cox.com> wrote:

> Seeing that there has not been any traffic with this proposal, it would
> seem not to many people really care.    What if we took this one a step
> further and did not show simple reassignments at all?  ISP's would still
> be required to swip showing utilization, but the records would no longer
> show up in a whois query.  If the ISP needed to see where their
> utilization statistics are they could send a message to hostmaster asking
> for a netinfo report.
>
> Simple reassignments have no DNS information or POC records associated
> with them, so if you are trying to trouble shoot a problem that happens
> to come from a range that has been assigned as a simple reassignment you
> still need to go to the upstream to get any information that may help.
> To clarify, there is no useful information that comes from a simple
> reassignment.
>
> What does everyone think?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Member Services [mailto:memsvcs at arin.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:07 PM
> To: arin-announce at arin.net; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [arin-announce] Policy Proposal 2003-3: Residential Customer
> Privacy
>
>
> ARIN welcomes feedback and discussion about the following policy
> proposal in the weeks leading to the ARIN Public Policy Meeting
> in Memphis, Tennessee, scheduled for April 7-8, 2003. All feedback
> received on the mailing list about this policy proposal will be
> included in the discussions that will take place at the upcoming
> Public Policy Meeting.
>
> This policy proposal discussion will take place on the ARIN Public
> Policy Mailing List (ppml at arin.net). Subscription information is
> available at http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html
>
> Richard Jimmerson
> Director of Operations
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>### * ###
>
> Policy Proposal 2003-3: Residential Customer Privacy
>
> Privacy of Residential Customer
> Name and Address Information
> In WHOIS
>
> Policy Proposal Statement:
>
> ARIN guidelines presently state that privacy of an individual's
> residential address information may be protected in WHOIS by
> indicating "Private Residence".  This policy proposal is intended
> to provide additional information privacy through omission of an
> individual's name from WHOIS, replacing their name with
> "Private Individual".
>
> The proposed policy would amend and modify the existing ARIN
> guideline, forming a new, permanent policy.
>
> Rationale and Justification:
>
> With the continued growth and popularity of DSL service,  increasing
> numbers of individuals and small home-based businesses are taking
> advantage of this technology.  Many of these customers require /29
> or larger assignments to support small networks.  Knowing that WHOIS
> is a public database, the majority of these customers have a viable
> concern regarding the publication of  their name and address information
> in WHOIS.  It is the responsibility of  an ISP to support the needs of
> their customers, and protect customer privacy whenever possible.  This
> policy specifically addresses the privacy issue on behalf of
> home/residential customers.
>
> The omission of personal name and address information from WHOIS is
> analogous to residential telephone service.  When residential phone
> service is activated, the individual's name, address and phone number
> are listed in the telephone directory.  The individual may, however,
> request an "unlisted" number, and their information is omitted from the
> directory.  This policy proposes the "listing" of the IP subnet in WHOIS,
> but individual name and address information would be "unlisted".
>
> It is the responsibility of the ISP to maintain complete and accurate
> information regarding the customer's name, address, etc.  This
> information would be made available to ARIN (if requested) for audit
> of netblock utilization in support of future allocations.
>
> In these difficult times, home security and privacy is on everyone's
> mind.   As internet users, service providers and overseers, it is our
> combined  responsibility to do whatever is necessary to ensure the
> safety, and  protect the privacy of the internet community at large.
>





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