[ppml] RIR shopping -- AND MORE

[Sweeting, John]

 Why should a company with a global internet have to deal with more than one
RIR? Do you realize the additional expense and drain on resources of dealing
with 4 or more registries? I (personally speaking) do not think that there
is any reason to pursue this line of reasoning, leave well enough alone.


-----Original Message-----
From: william at elan.net
To: ppml at arin.net
Sent: 3/1/03 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: [ppml] RIR shopping -- AND MORE

I think this is wrong to allow "RIR Shopping" at all, there is a reason 
why we have RIRs for particular major world region and it should stay
this 
way, we should not be allowing companies to buy IP at one RIR and use it

in completed different world order. Not only that but some applications
on being able to tell where client is is coming from sometimes regions.
I'm not really sure (yet) what policies (if any) RIRs should impliment
to 
stop RIR shopping but I view it as really negative thing. 

And util now I did not know that RIR shopping was even allowed, I
consult 
companies in different parts of the world and some companies are 
connecting to the networks present in both US and other regions, well 
when getting ips in other regions, ips were from block given from other 
RIR to that network and in US from ARIN to the network, this is for all 
networks I dealt with and I saw it as clear sign that networks obtain 
separate ip blocks when they expand to Europe and to Asia. That is the 
way its supposed to be I think, maybe only the actual core (routers) may

use ips from the same RIRs if that is important for the network in the 
way its setup.

On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Alec H. Peterson wrote:

> --On Saturday, March 1, 2003 0:03 -0500 "McBurnett, Jim" 
> <jmcburnett at msmgmt.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > If we can't stop nitpicking the policies and push forward,
> > we may see other RIRs get the customers while ARIN falls behind...
> 
> We aren't in competition with the other RIRs.
> 
> We also do not have to do anything just because the other RIRs do it.
> 
> As I've said before, people will lie and cheat no matter what we do
with 
> our policies.  We need to do what we think is best for the part of the

> world that ARIN serves.
> 
> Alec
> 
> --
> Alec H. Peterson -- ahp at hilander.com
> Chief Technology Officer
> Catbird Networks, http://www.catbird.com
>