[ppml] ARIN is milking the COW

Joe Baptista baptista at dot-god.com
Mon Apr 14 22:18:58 EDT 2003

The internet numbers authority has recently been accused of milking the
cow.  An appropriate reference for an organization which allocates numbers
and provides reverse dns.  A service they charge $2,500 USD for but is
only worth at best $6.00 USD.

I could do the reverse for less.  Is the IANA RIR MLM operation out of

Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god via inclusive namespace

another useless fact ....
In England, murder is murder. There are no degrees of murder, as in
the United States.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:01:44 -0500
From: Matthew S. Hallacy <poptix at techmonkeys.org>
To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras at e-gerbil.net>, nanog at merit.edu
Subject: Re: Independent space from ARIN

On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:21:01AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:

> * Why do we have to pay very large sums of money ($2500+ per year at a
>   minimum) for this wonderful IP policing service. Where in the heck does
>   all that money go?

>From http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/budget.html :

Out of the $7,861,700.00 they raked in last year:

SALARIES		$2,326,653.85
FRINGE BENEFITS		$1,045,063.15
HIRING COSTS		$75,000.00
COMPUTER		$118,941.75
DEPRECIATION		$445,750.00
RENT & OCCUPANCY	$461,287.00
GENERAL OFFICE		$192,400.00
LEGAL FEES		$100,000.00
Legal Defense Fund	$200,000.00
ICANN SUPPORT		$188,480.00
Other Internet Support - Merit & ISOC  $100,000.00
LACNIC SUPPORT		$66,000.00
CONSULTING		$184,000.00
Total			$6,372,007.76

In other words, they're milking the cash cow.

> * Why are we expected to continue the status quo of paying thousands of
>   dollars for addresses in IPv6? Without the threat of an artifical
>   shortage to "manage", what possible reason is there to justify ARIN's
>   existance or fees? Why do we all get the feeling IPv6 isn't an end to
>   the expenses, but rather a vast new market of registration and renewal
>   fees?

Because the owners of the cash cow don't want it to go away.

> --
> Richard A Steenbergen <ras at e-gerbil.net>       http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
> GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Matthew S. Hallacy                            FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified
http://www.poptix.net                           GPG public key 0x01938203

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