[ppml] BOGUS- ARIN WHOIS?

[Schultz, Ken]

I am wondering how prevalent this issue is, since we (Marconi) seem to have
a very similar problem. 

Other personnel have tried in the past to get our POC info updated for our
various netblocks updated and run into what they described as a brick wall
at ARIN. Marconi in particular has a few hurdles that I suspect are
relatively common. 
  -We were acquired a few years ago and our former entity name is no longer
in use (FORE Systems.) 
  -We also no longer have any old letterhead. 
  -The old domain name (fore.com, used by current POC info) is no longer
used. 
  -The employee listed as the current POC is no longer with the company. 
  -Our site moved, so our mailing/physical address has changed as well.

(Short story...company was acquired, then dealt with economic-dictated
downsizing...seems very common I would think)

I've talked to several employees here that are rather exasperated at how
difficult it seems to be to change the POC info for a contact that no longer
exists.

So, don't point an accusatory finger at all of the "deadbeat" organizations
out there who have failed to keep their contact info up-to-date, without
understanding that it can be difficult to get through the bureacracy
sometimes. For a great number of organizations, I can easily see that they
would see it as not being worth the effort to continuing to fight to get the
database correct.

I myself have only recently picked up the ball here to try to get our
contact info changed -- if anyone can point to the proper process to get the
POC changed, assuming that none of the above still exists, I'd certainly
appreciate it.

Ken Schultz
Sr Network Engineer
Marconi Communications
ken.schultz at marconi.com
724-742-7483


-----Original Message-----
From: John M. Brown [mailto:john at chagres.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:46 AM
To: Jack.W.Parks at alltel.com; ppml at arin.net
Subject: RE: [ppml] BOGUS- ARIN WHOIS?


why is this a deadlock issue between ARIN and AllTel ??


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of Jack.W.Parks at alltel.com
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:03 PM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] BOGUS- ARIN WHOIS?
> 
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up!
> 
> We have been trying to correct this discrepancy for months, 
> however, we are deadlocked with ARIN for resolving this 
> issue.  I know this could rat hole rather rapidly and is OT.  
> Ticket # ARIN-20021211.474 
> 
> If you need any questions answered, you may forward questions 
> about this block to ipadmin at alltel.net or abuse at alltel.net.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jack W. Parks IV
> Sr. Network Engineer
> ALLTEL Communications
> jack.w.parks at alltel.com
> Work: 501-905-5961
> Cell: 501-680-3341
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Jimmerson [mailto:richardj at arin.net] 
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:57 PM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] BOGUS- ARIN WHOIS?
> 
> 
> Hello Jim,
> 
> > is there any kind of existing policy to reports bad
> > WHOIS to ARIN?
> 
> You can send email to hostmaster at arin.net.  ARIN staff
> will research reports of out-of-date information and
> take appropriate action.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Richard Jimmerson
> Director of Operations
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On Behalf Of 
> > McBurnett, Jim
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:19 PM
> > To: ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: [ppml] BOGUS- ARIN WHOIS?
> > 
> > 
> > Okay,
> > I got bit..
> > I did a whois for an IP address that came up Central 
> Telephone company 
> > Lincoln, NE. 151.213.99.122
> > And I got a name, email address etc..
> > Due to the reason I looked it up- which is another topic totally- 
> > I immediately called this contact.
> > Which was disconnected.. Then I discovered, oh this is ALLTEL now.
> > 
> > I hope we can get the proposal passed and force the updating of the 
> > WHOIS.. But in the interim is there any kind of existing policy to 
> > reports bad WHOIS to ARIN?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> > 
>