[ppml] RIR's should have power to suspend Member's registration in specified circumstances

John M. Brown john at chagres.net
Sun Oct 27 12:31:59 EST 2002


how does this impact those that run their own RWHOIS services?

Are you going to mandate that they also verify, flag, remove,
referify, add, etc ???

An RIR's job is to see that allocations fit RFC 2050.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Jones
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:28 AM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] RIR's should have power to suspend 
> Member's registration in specified circumstances
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net]On Behalf Of 
> > Shane Kerr
> > Sent: 27 October 2002 01:04
> > To: John M. Brown
> > Cc: ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: [ppml] RIR's should have power to suspend Member's
> > registration in specified circumstances
> >
> >
> 
> > The question is rather I think whether an organization who has been 
> > allocated a resource for use on the Internet has a 
> responsibility to 
> > be reached in some way.  If the answer is "no", then we should take 
> > down the WHOIS servers, and save ourselves a lot of money and 
> > resources required to maintain that service.
> >
> Despite the resultant frustration to users trying to contact 
> the offending organisations, I would agree with that.
> 
> > If the answer is "yes", we do want contact information, 
> then what is 
> > the point of having it if it is not correct?
> >
> Absolutely!
> 
> > Perhaps we could take a more gentle approach and do something like:
> >
> > 1. If someone reports contact information is incorrect, ARIN can
> >    investigate (send an e-mail and/or make a phone call).
> > 2. If the investigation reveals that it is incorrect, ARIN can put a
> >    flag on the record in WHOIS.
> 
> I believe that ARIN does do this. Unfortunately, their 
> automated response system does not appear to recognise 
> requests for contact information yet.
> 
> > 3. The next time the organisation contacts ARIN (for more space, 
> > annual
> >    renewal, or whatever), then they have to fix the contact data.
> >
> > No, this won't fix problems for inactive organisations, but you 
> > probably won't be getting too much spam from them, right?  :)
> >
> 
> Probably correct.
> 
> > If we're worried about extra workload for ARIN, then we can
> > use varying
> > degrees of automation for step #1.
> >
> 
> Should not be any real problem, I would have thought. It only requires
> someone with some reasonable degree of Perl scripting 
> knowledge for a day or
> so.
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