[ppml] Cont of 2002-6 discussion with question for all.....

[Sweeting, John]

I think that is a fair question but not as part of the 2002-6 policy
discussion. I believe that the objective of the policy is allow entities to
turn in non-aggretable address blocks in order to reduce routes. We need to
stay focused on the policy itself in order to help the BoT make a
determination on whether to enact the policy or not.

-----Original Message-----
From: McBurnett, Jim [mailto:jmcburnett at msmgmt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:00 PM
To: Taylor, Stacy; Joe Baptista; David Conrad
Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
Subject: [ppml] Cont of 2002-6 discussion with question for all.....


Well,
I think that is a question for the list.
How can we clean this legacy space?
We all know it is going to get worse.

ISP A, B and C turn in a dozen or so disparet class C's. With at least 30 -
40 (or more) server IP addresses per ISP, the new user of that block could
be deluged by requests, espeically if they happen to put up a DNS server or
webserver on the sae IP as the predessor... There has to be a way to clean
the space...

Could there be a search engine created to identify who owned it previously?
An update to core providers?

IDEAS anyone?


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor, Stacy [mailto:Stacy_Taylor at icgcomm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:56 PM
To: McBurnett, Jim; Joe Baptista; David Conrad
Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
Subject: RE: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2002-6


As the administrator for an extremely legacy network, (was NETCOM), I run
into this issue frequently.  What it does is beg the question of how to
clean up previously used space, which is another issue entirely.

Stacy 

-----Original Message-----
From: McBurnett, Jim [mailto:jmcburnett at msmgmt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:43 PM
To: Joe Baptista; David Conrad
Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
Subject: RE: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2002-6


Exactly!
I got a Class C from my provider and I get at least 500-1000 hits a day to
two of my IP's for DNS services, Which are there anymore and other less
frequent hits to web services ports.
The problem I see is: How can you tell those uninformed users that they
aren't to use the IP's anymore and how to find out who used to have those IP
addresses. Wouldn't it be bad if some illegitimate business had those IP's
before you? (assumedly they had a shorter than a /24)

As David said.. This is my 2 cents worth...
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Baptista [mailto:baptista at dot-god.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:36 PM
To: David Conrad
Cc: Einar Bohlin; ARIN PPML
Subject: Re: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2002-6



On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, David Conrad wrote:

> > Used IPs are not as good as fresh ones.
>
> Interesting assertion.  Why do you say this?

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