guideline for name-based web hosting justification

[Ted Pavlic]

Unknown browsers might be spiders or other similar tools as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mury" <mury at goldengate.net>
To: "PSchroebel" <paschroebel at erols.com>
Cc: "Jon Rust" <hostmaster at vcnet.com>; "Alec H. Peterson"
<ahp at hilander.com>; "Matt Bailey" <mbailey at journey.net>;
<arin-discuss at arin.net>; <ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: guideline for name-based web hosting justification


>
> Was there no "Unknown" browsers?  My logging and analysis tools have a
> very high percentage that come back as "Unknown," which I'm inclined to
> beleive are older browsers.
>
> Mury
>
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, PSchroebel wrote:
>
> > Tracking browsers....
> > Yes we did and we were amazed with the results.
> > In fact we still dont believe them....
> >
> > Where is Netscape?...this is a sampling too!!
> >
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 98;
> > DigExt)  16605 (26.2%)  176388k (34.0%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)  4288
> > (6.8%)  8060k (1.6%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 95;
> > DigExt)  3675 (5.8%)  38714k (7.5%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt)  3477
> > (5.5%)  11312k (2.2%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)  2500
> > (3.9%)  13682k (2.6%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; AOL 5.0; Windows 98)
> > 2051 (3.2%)  21238k (4.1%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 4.0; Windows 98;
> > DigExt)  1906 (3.0%)  19527k (3.8%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; MSN 2.5; AOL 5.0; Windows
> > 98; DigExt)  1282 (2.0%)  13459k (2.6%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)  1146 (1.8%)
> > 6325k (1.2%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT)  1009 (1.6%)
> > 5864k (1.1%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 5.0; Windows 98)  870
> > (1.4%)  9029k (1.7%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 95; DigExt)  784
> > (1.2%)  4484k (0.9%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; AOL 4.0; Windows 98)
> > 778 (1.2%)  7224k (1.4%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Mac_PowerPC)  766 (1.2%)
> > 1076k (0.2%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 98;
> > Compaq; DigExt)  630 (1.0%)  8262k (1.6%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)  618 (1.0%)
> > 3459k (0.7%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)  586 (0.9%)
> > 3224k (0.6%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)  548 (0.9%)
> > 2893k (0.6%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT)  534 (0.8%)
> > 3060k (0.6%)
> > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; AOL 4.0; Windows 95)
> > 486 (0.8%)  5205k (1.0%)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Peter Schroebel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mury" <mury at goldengate.net>
> > To: "Jon Rust" <hostmaster at vcnet.com>
> > Cc: "Alec H. Peterson" <ahp at hilander.com>; "Matt Bailey"
> > <mbailey at journey.net>; <arin-discuss at arin.net>;
> > <ppml at arin.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: guideline for name-based web hosting
> > justification
> >
> >
> >
> > > You're bending the truth here, quite a bit actually. The
> > HTTP 1.0 proto
> > > may not support the Host: header, but browsers that are
> > using HTTP 1.0
> > > may very well support he Host: header. Oh, i don't know, a
> > smallish
> > > browser called Netscape, v 2.0 or better, comes to mind.
> > Grepping
> > > through my access log for today I see over 65,000 1.0
> > requests. 98% of
> > > those are to name-based virtual hosts (which is almost all
> > i run
> > > anymore), and they all worked.
> > >
> > > jon
> >
> >
> > Good to know.  Finally someone takes the time to correct me
> > and not just
> > call me a whiner.
> >
> > So, does anyone know a reliable source that keeps track of
> > stats on
> > browsers?  If it isn't 50% that won't get to the web site,
> > is it
> > 10%? 5%? .0001%?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Mury
> > GoldenGate Internet Services
> >
> >
>
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