[arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning

Mike Hammett mike.hammett at ics-il.com
Tue Oct 16 19:02:46 EDT 2018


Not a bad idea. 




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From: "Robby Wright" <rwright at abtechtechnologies.com> 
To: "Rick Ewart" <rick at ewart.net>, "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net>, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> 
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:13:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning 



Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for. 


Robby Wright 
Chief Architect and Consultant 
Abtech Technologies, Inc. 
760-827-5141 



From: ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Rick Ewart 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM 
To: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>; Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> 
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net 
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning 

Hi All. 

Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. 

As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn’t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. 

But then again, I wasn’t upset to begin with so….. :P 

Take care, 
Rick 

Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS 
Ewart Technologies, Inc. 
15751 Sheridan St, #160 
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331 
rick at ewart.net 





From: ARIN-discuss [ mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net ] On Behalf Of John Curran 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM 
To: Owen DeLong 
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net 
Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning 
Importance: High 

On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong < owen at delong.com > wrote: 






Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. 





Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion… 





Folks - 




Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss: "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " 




I will note that ARIN’s 2018 election is complete – https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html 



I’d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. 



With this election complete, it’s now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails. As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support. 



ARIN’s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes. Similarly, ARIN’s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning. 



It would be good to discuss ARIN’s current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted. 



To the end, please comment on the question: “Should ARIN’s election processes prohibit bulk campaign email to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?” 



Thanks! 

/John 




John Curran 

President and CEO 

American Registry for Internet Numbers 









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