[arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning

Ryan Root rroot at rootautomation.com
Tue Oct 16 15:19:56 EDT 2018

When it's all said and done an isp with their customers have the right to prove and enforce that having an email account does not make it a 1st amendment right of any alleged legal press establishment to send their customers email.  It's a black and white issue that Congress will have to act upon at least in the U.S. handling their illegal redress stuff.
Ryan M. RootOwner/OperatorRoot Automation
-------- Original message --------From: Rick Ewart <rick at ewart.net> Date: 10/16/18  11:37 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning 
Hi All. Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue. As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that doesn’t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt them), then so be it. But then again, I wasn’t upset to begin with so….. :P Take care,Rick Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMSEwart Technologies, Inc.15751 Sheridan St, #160Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331rick at ewart.net   From: ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Curran
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM
To: Owen DeLong
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning
Importance: High On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote: Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss. Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to reopen this discussion…     Folks - Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to arin-discuss:  "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. " I will note that ARIN’s 2018 election is complete – https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html I’d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC. With this election complete, it’s now timely to discuss the matter of campaign emails.  As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the electorate asking for their support.  ARIN’s stance on this has historically been that those people who receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in the election processes.  Similarly, ARIN’s terms of use for its ARIN Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their campaigning.  It would be good to discuss ARIN’s current stance on this issue, in order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is warranted.    To the end, please comment on the question:  “Should ARIN’s election processes prohibit bulk campaign email  to the electorate, or is the present approach suitable as-is?” Thanks!/John John CurranPresident and CEOAmerican Registry for Internet Numbers   
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