[arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss

Tue Oct 16 18:24:54 EDT 2018

Jamey,

I think the biggest issue is people are flooding the list with demands
to be removed.

You said you unsubscribed but still receive emails, maybe the other
people are having the same issue... I wouldn't know I have not
unsubscribed.

However the signature again states what to do: "Please contact
info at arin.net if you experience any issues."

There is no reason people need to keep flooding asking to be removed,
all it does it piss people off and its the wrong course of action.
If they follow the directions given to them, I am sure their pain will
go away. I'm sure many of these people would be upset if their users
failed to follow processes... yet they are evading the process themselves.

On 10/16/2018 3:20 PM, Jamey Mellis wrote:
> Steven,
> I agree that it is easy to unsubscribe. I did unsubscribe but I am
> still getting the emails. I understand the process but feel that the
> unsubscribe process should work better. Maybe it takes 48 hoursor more
> to process an unsubscribe request so I will see how it goes over the
> next few days. I think I am just over 48 hours now.  
>
> I am new to Arin so this is my first experience with this from them. I
> do want to be able to keep up with what is going on but maybe have a
> page or blog for each candidate and save this mailing list for
> non-political announcements. 
>
> How many people do you suppose will opt out of this list because they
> felt they were being spammed?  If this list is important as I have
> been reading then maybe the powers to be should reconsider what the
> list is used for. I think many of us are overwhelmed with emails and
> would like to minimize the amount of messages we get. 
>
> Just my 2 cents worth. 
>
>
>
> James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH, PCI-ISA, PCIP
>
> Software Solutions and Designs, Inc
> 843-556-4720
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steven Ciaburri <steve at rack911.com>
> Date: 10/16/18 6:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: arin-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss
>
> It absolutely amazes me that all of you demanding to be removed,
> unsubscribed, etc are in the IT industry.
>
> Obviously you don't know how mailing lists work.
> Its been stated many times how to remove yourself... its even in the
> signature of every email. 
>
>
> Let me help you out, since you obviously have not seen it the
> countless other times:
>
> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing
>  list subscription at:
> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss
>
> Just as easy to do this as it is to reply back with SAME HERE or
>  UNSUBSCRIBE. Every time one of you ignorant people reply like... you just
 further the
>  frustration for everyone.
> On 10/16/2018 2:53 PM, Mike Singh wrote:
>>
>> SAME HERE
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of
>> Victor Suarez <vsuarez at fusetelecom.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM
>> *To:* Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert
>> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss
>>  
>> Please take me out of this loop.
>>
>>
>>
>> Víctor J.Suárez Mercado
>> VP of Sales & Marketing
>> Fuse Telecom, LLC.
>> O.787 953 3873 Ext 300
>> F.787 957 3873
>> E.vsuarez at fusetelecom.com
>> www.fusetelecom.com
>> Connect to Grow!
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of
>> Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM
>> *To:* Michael H Lambert
>> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss
>>  
>> Well, currently, it’s not against ARIN election policy, so arguably
>> there isn’t any abuse.
>>
>> I’d like to see that policy changed so that it is considered abuse.
>> In fact, I’d like to see it become disqualifying for candidates to
>> spamvertise their candidacy.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert <lambert at psc.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally low volume as well.
>> Once a year, we get a flurry of emails about election spam.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the
>> opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss.
>> >
>> > I think you have a good point, Owen.  At the very least, complaints
>> should go to abuse@, not arin-discuss at .
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager             Phone: +1 412 268-4960
>> > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX          FAX:   +1 412 268-5832
>> > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA  15213 USA      lambert at psc.edu
>> >
>> >
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