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    <p>Jamey,</p>
    <p>I think the biggest issue is people are flooding the list with
      demands to be removed.</p>
    <p>You said you unsubscribed but still receive emails, maybe the
      other people are having the same issue... I wouldn't know I have
      not unsubscribed. <br>
    </p>
    <p>However the signature again states what to do: "Please contact <a
        class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a>
      if you experience any issues."</p>
    <p>There is no reason people need to keep flooding asking to be
      removed, all it does it piss people off and its the wrong course
      of action.<br>
      If they follow the directions given to them, I am sure their pain
      will go away. I'm sure many of these people would be upset if
      their users failed to follow processes... yet they are evading the
      process themselves.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/16/2018 3:20 PM, Jamey Mellis
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>Steven,</div>
      <div>I agree that it is easy to unsubscribe. I did unsubscribe but
        I am still getting the emails. I understand the process but feel
        that the unsubscribe process should work better. Maybe it takes
        48 hoursor more to process an unsubscribe request so I will see
        how it goes over the next few days. <font face="sans-serif">I
          think I am just over 48 hours now.  </font></div>
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      <div><font face="sans-serif">I am new to Arin so this is my first
          experience with this from them. I do want to be able to keep
          up with what is going on but maybe have a page or blog for
          each candidate and save this mailing list for non-political
          announcements. </font></div>
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      <div><font face="sans-serif">How many people do you suppose will
          opt out of this list because they felt they were being
          spammed?  If this list is important as I have been reading
          then maybe the powers to be should reconsider what the list is
          used for. I think many of us are overwhelmed with emails and
          would like to minimize the amount of messages we
 get. </font></div>
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      <div><font face="sans-serif">Just my 2 cents worth. </font></div>
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      <div id="composer_signature">James Mellis CISSP, CISM, CEH, CSIH,
        PCI-ISA, PCIP
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        <div>Software Solutions and Designs, Inc</div>
        <div>843-556-4720</div>
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      <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
      <div>From: Steven Ciaburri <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
 href="mailto:steve@rack911.com"><steve@rack911.com></a> </div>
      <div>Date: 10/16/18 6:01 PM (GMT-05:00) </div>
      <div>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a> </div>
      <div>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
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        <p>It absolutely amazes me that all of you demanding to be
          removed, unsubscribed, etc are in the IT industry.<br>
        </p>
        <p>Obviously you don't know how mailing lists work.<br>
          Its been stated many times how to remove yourself... its even
          in the signature of every email. 
          <br>
        </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>Let me help you out, since you obviously have not seen it the
          countless other times:</p>
        <pre class="moz-quote-pre">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing
 list subscription at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss"
 moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss</a>

Just as easy to do this as it is to reply back with SAME HERE or
 UNSUBSCRIBE. Every time one of you ignorant people reply like... you just
 further the
 frustration for everyone.
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/16/2018 2:53 PM, Mike Singh
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              face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
              ARIN-discuss
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net"
               
 moz-do-not-send="true"><arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net></a>
              on behalf of Victor Suarez
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:vsuarez@fusetelecom.com"
               
 moz-do-not-send="true"><vsuarez@fusetelecom.com></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:45:05 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Owen DeLong; Michael H Lambert<br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss</font>
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                  <div style="direction:ltr">Please take me out of this
                    loop.</div>
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                    <div style="direction:ltr">Víctor J.Suárez Mercado</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr">VP of Sales &
                      Marketing</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr">Fuse Telecom, LLC.</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr">O.787 953 3873 Ext 300</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr">F.787 957 3873</div>
                    <div style="direction:ltr"><a
                        class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:E.vsuarez@fusetelecom.com"
                       
 moz-do-not-send="true">E.vsuarez@fusetelecom.com</a></div>
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                        class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="http://www.fusetelecom.com"
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                    <div style="direction:ltr">Connect to Grow!</div>
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                  color="#000000"><b>From:</b> ARIN-discuss
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net"
                   
 moz-do-not-send="true"><arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net></a>
                  on behalf of Owen DeLong
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:owen@delong.com"
 moz-do-not-send="true"><owen@delong.com></a><br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:42:47 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Michael H Lambert<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">
                    arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN-discuss</font>
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                <div class="x_PlainText">Well, currently, it’s not
                  against ARIN election policy, so arguably there isn’t
                  any abuse.<br>
                  <br>
                  I’d like to see that policy changed so that it is
                  considered abuse. In fact, I’d like to see it become
                  disqualifying for candidates to spamvertise their
                  candidacy.<br>
                  <br>
                  Owen<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  > On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:26 , Michael H Lambert <a
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:lambert@psc.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">
                    <lambert@psc.edu></a> wrote:<br>
                  > <br>
                  >> On 16 Oct 2018, at 14:06, Owen DeLong <a
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:owen@delong.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
                    <owen@delong.com></a> wrote:<br>
                  >> <br>
                  >> It seems to me that arin-discuss is generally
                  low volume as well. Once a year, we get a flurry of
                  emails about election spam.<br>
                  >> <br>
                  >> Perhaps we should disallow election spam
                  rather than changing the opt-in/opt-out policy for
                  arin-discuss.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > I think you have a good point, Owen.  At the very
                  least, complaints should go to abuse@, not
                  arin-discuss@.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Michael<br>
                  > <br>
                  > -----<br>
                  > Michael H Lambert, GigaPoP Manager            
                  Phone: +1 412 268-4960<br>
                  > Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center/3ROX         
                  FAX:   +1 412 268-5832<br>
                  > 300 S Craig St, Pittsburgh, PA  15213 USA      <a
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