[arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM

Mon Oct 15 13:06:59 EDT 2018

> On Oct 15, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Paul Fleming <paul at wecominc.com> wrote:
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> Joffe, at least everyone knows you are a dick now. 

Old news sonny. 

But now everyone knows that you can’t obey basic instructions, you obviously have NO experience in the technical world because you don’t know how listservs work,  you can’t set filters on your mail system, and you have a potty mouth. 

And you have *no* sense of history. 

Who was it who said “it’s better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than open it and remove all doubt”?

Sage advice. 

John C. and the ARIN and AUP folks, I’ll cut it off here so no need to suggest an end to this fork ;-)

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> I am busy working and making money. I will put on my big boy pants and take care of it you jack ass.
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> From: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe at centergate.com>
> Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM
> To: Paul Fleming <paul at wecominc.com>
> Cc: "arin-discuss at arin.net" <arin-discuss at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM
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> Hey. You subscribed yourself. But you seem oblivious to what you subscribed to, you don’t read the adminstravia sent to you when you did subscribe that told you how to unsubscribe, you’ve ignored the multiple posts that have spelled it out for the slow learners like you and you’ve finally failed to look at the footer of every email where it gets spelled out. 
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> So, no. Go put your big boy pants on, and go unsubscribe yourself. 
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> Say, you’re not related to Jim Fleming, are you
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> On Oct 15, 2018, at 11:25 AM, Paul Fleming <paul at wecominc.com> wrote:
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> Unsubscribe me please
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> From: ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> on behalf of Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:51 AM
> To: Michael Zindel <michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site>
> Cc: "arin-discuss at arin.net" <arin-discuss at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM
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> The first issue was being solicited for votes.
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> The second real issue is the 50+ posts about the first non issue.  This is what's annoying to me and many others in this list/thread.
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> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM Michael Zindel <michael.zindel at libertybroadband.site> wrote:
> I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN and refer to it as spam.  
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> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett <mike.hammett at ics-il.com> wrote:
> You're not. It's a figment of your imagination.
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> From: "John Ajjarapu" <John.Ajjarapu at ironmountain.com>
> To: "Martin Hannigan" <hannigan at gmail.com>
> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM
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> Why am I getting these SPAM????
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization.
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> While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place more than anything.
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> \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure?
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> https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf
> https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii
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> I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it.
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> Food for though. For next time. $0.02
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> Best Regards,
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> -M<
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> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next <arik at nextcommunications.com> wrote:
> Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really disturbing. 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> For me, it was Peter Harrison. 
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> Best,
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> -M<
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> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
> On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman <clayton at MNSi.Net> wrote:
> > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else
> > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board
> > position this week?
> > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record.
> 
> Well, this seems like as good a place as any to bring it up.
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> You may as well say which candidate it was from.
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>                                 -Bill
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