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<p class="MsoNormal">Joffe, at least everyone knows you are a dick now. </p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Old news sonny. <div><br></div><div>But now everyone knows that you can’t obey basic instructions, you obviously have NO experience in the technical world because you don’t know how listservs work, you can’t set filters on your mail system, and you have a potty mouth. </div><div><br></div><div>And you have *no* sense of history. </div><div><br></div><div>Who was it who said “it’s better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than open it and remove all doubt”?</div><div><br></div><div>Sage advice. </div><div><br></div><div>John C. and the ARIN and AUP folks, I’ll cut it off here so no need to suggest an end to this fork ;-)</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am busy working and making money. I will put on my big boy pants and take care of it you jack ass.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Paul L. Fleming | Wecom, Inc. and Data-Max Wireless | COO & Vice President<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Office: 928.753.3829 | Direct: 928.377.5073 | Fax: 928.753.5991<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">trust your network | <a href="http://wecominc.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">wecominc.com</span></a> / <a href="http://datamaxwireless.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">datamaxwireless.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Rodney Joffe <<a href="mailto:rjoffe@centergate.com">rjoffe@centergate.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, October 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Paul Fleming <<a href="mailto:paul@wecominc.com">paul@wecominc.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey. You subscribed yourself. But you seem oblivious to what you subscribed to, you don’t read the adminstravia sent to you when you did subscribe that told you how to unsubscribe, you’ve ignored the multiple posts that have spelled it
out for the slow learners like you and you’ve finally failed to look at the footer of every email where it gets spelled out. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, no. Go put your big boy pants on, and go unsubscribe yourself. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Say, you’re not related to Jim Fleming, are you<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Oct 15, 2018, at 11:25 AM, Paul Fleming <<a href="mailto:paul@wecominc.com">paul@wecominc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">trust your network | <a href="http://wecominc.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">wecominc.com</span></a> / <a href="http://datamaxwireless.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">datamaxwireless.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ARIN-discuss <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a>> on behalf of Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:51 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Michael Zindel <<a href="mailto:michael.zindel@libertybroadband.site">michael.zindel@libertybroadband.site</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The first issue was being solicited for votes. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The second real issue is the 50+ posts about the first non issue. This is what's annoying to me and many others in this list/thread.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Office: 937-552-2340<br>
Direct: 937-552-2343<br>
1100 Wayne St<br>
Suite 1337<br>
Troy, OH 45373<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 11:42 AM Michael Zindel <<a href="mailto:michael.zindel@libertybroadband.site">michael.zindel@libertybroadband.site</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of ARIN and refer to it as spam. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett <<a href="mailto:mike.hammett@ics-il.com" target="_blank">mike.hammett@ics-il.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">You're not. It's a figment of your imagination.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">"John Ajjarapu" <<a href="mailto:John.Ajjarapu@ironmountain.com" target="_blank">John.Ajjarapu@ironmountain.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Martin Hannigan" <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM<br>
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Why am I getting these SPAM???? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy
discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later reading comfort.
It is a nice way to approach any mailbox organization.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My voting views are not relevant to the issue at
hand. If there is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender. They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election seems
to have a right per VA corporate law to access information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either. My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a grey area with ARIN being
between the rock and the hard place more than anything. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">\While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the traditional sense, but I am over it in the general
sense. Spam filters, both automated and personally configured do well enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me, this
isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the required disclosure?
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they may not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman <<a href="mailto:clayton@MNSi.Net" target="_blank">clayton@MNSi.Net</a>> wrote:<br>
> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else<br>
> receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board<br>
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You may as well say which candidate it was from.<br>
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