[arin-discuss] Fwd: [ARIN-Suggestions] New ACSP Suggestion 2014.10: CHANGES TO CANDIDATE SPEECHES

[Paul Andersen]

-1

I'm having a hard time reconciling what is going on here. 

The idea of effectively pre-approving candidate messaging feels to me like the proposed cure is worse then the disease. Who will approve these? And when a video isn't approved what stops that person from publishing it on youtube anyway? (Each candidate gets a link to a webpage currently). And what if they instead just encourage people to visit a link where said endorsement is made? Or if they are wearing a T-Shirt with the other candidate?  A picture of the other candidate on their desk? Will all those be blocked?

We also seem to encourage the idea of third party endorsements. There is an entire section dedicated in the election website to that purpose. 

I'm also uncomfortable with the concept of "severe penalties". It am gathering from the comments that Bernadette did not solicit Owen's endorsement. Would the penalty be against Owen? Bernadette? Again -- this all starts to get ugly quick.

Is the cleaner solution that if your offended by what a candidate just don't vote for them?

And are we going to get into all the other ways people try and rally votes? Facebook? Twitter? Direct Emailing? I think if we're going to start putting policies around this we need to look at the whole picture and not just one aspect of it.

Cheers,

Paul


(Full Disclosure: Two elections ago there was a rash of this happening during the BoT speeches of which I was a candidate. I'm pretty sure somebody endorsed me - but others endorsed candidates who were not me. I thought it was strange but was not upset by it).

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> On 6/5/2014 10:52 AM, Bill Sandiford wrote:
>> +1 
>> 
>> I was a candidate one of the years that this occurred.  It was very upsetting.  I believe a good set of rules, with severe penalties if broken, is sufficient to ensure this doesn’t happen again.  A prohibition on speeches seems excessive to me.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 9:45 AM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:
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>>> It has been brought to my attention that this has happened more than once.  My mistake.  The more reason that there should be guidelines for candidate speeches.  I still think taking them away completely is extreme.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> ----Cathy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:38 PM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:
>>> Wow I agree with Owen.  I believe that in person speeches are useful and give the community a chance to get to know the candidates.  Everyone who is willing to run for election should be told the rules.  in the whole history of ARIN this issue has appeared in one election and I feel that if the candidates are told the rules there will be no further problems. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> ----Cathy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I oppose the implementation of this suggestion.
>>> 
>>> No rule prohibiting what Paul and I did existed prior to our doing it. I don’t see any way in which it impacted the integrity of the election process.
>>> 
>>> However, it has been made clear that such conduct is not desired and I see no reason that simply making that fact known is not sufficient. Going to written-only or pre-fabricated speeches is an unnecessary overreaction, IMHO.
>>> 
>>> Owen
>>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 9:04 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A new suggestion was received through the ACSP, and was assigned number  2014.10 upon receipt of confirmation.
>>>>  
>>>> The text of the Suggestion is available at: https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2014-10.html
>>>>  
>>>> ARIN will issue an initial response within 10 business days.
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  
>>>> Communications and Member Services
>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ***
>>>> Suggestion: 
>>>> 
>>>> With election time starting to be on the horizon again, it's time for ARIN to address the events of October in Phoenix, where an outgoing Board member hijacked the agenda to stump for his preferred board candidates, and an AC candidate used his speech time to endorse others.
>>>> 
>>>> I think that for the integrity of the ARIN election process to remain intact, ARIN either needs to remove candidate speeches and stick to written materials, or have the speeches given in premade form like a video or something on the ARIN website.
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