[arin-discuss] Fwd: [ARIN-Suggestions] New ACSP Suggestion 2014.10: CHANGES TO CANDIDATE SPEECHES
bob at FiberInternetCenter.com
Thu Jun 5 11:29:09 EDT 2014
I think the proposal to prevent whatever we want to call it (be it
hangover influence in judgement, mistake, misunderstanding or any other
dictionary words that may fit such a human action) is a good one.
Aside from this incident being used to help justify more rules governing
election the process, as a long time member of ARIN with a history of
voting, term limits are a basic good policy that help prevent a bad
official from gaining to much public power and comfort due to long
standing name recognition. Yes, we have to make great officials step aside
for a term to see how another might fit. Maybe a few more policies
governing election process would be helpful to provided clarification to
In most governments an official can use the media to leverage support for
themselves and others, however, they can not use public paid or sponsored
government events, real estate grounds, etc. We don't have much in the way
of rules about this. WIthout rules about it a good intention can easily
(SIde note; They can walk across the street to a restaurant hundreds of
feet away and speak with the press and anyone else that will listen. But
they can't gather that attendance at the government event through a
commercial means, such as handing out material that they are across the
street during a government paid event.)
ARIN and NANOG community membership meetings which blend well with ARIN
presence should be looked at as government like events. The industry has
other commercial, non-membership driven EXPO like events for such vote
gathering and candidate awareness. So having a few unfair use of official
power rules is something that will prevent future arguments on the
assumptions there was such a rule.
Since we are on an election related topic, I also think that an ARIN
candidate statement and community member endorsements are good. It should
be expanded to include video clips by candidates (with some of fixed equal
time rule). In their video they can even have officials and others appear
to endorse them. These should sit on an ARIN server. A step deeper into
this concept would "encourage" video endorsements for candidates from
anyone (without time limits). Such clips should not be on an ARIN server
but reachable through a link in their ARIN hosted endorsement text. This
will gather more industry interest in ARIN voting that we have have been
searching for. After all elections are also a form of entertainment that
gathers election interest and awareness.
Elections as they are today are rather boring. Anyone one else think a
video media/event is a good idea ? (Such should be guided by a policy).
Fiber Internet Center LLC
> It has been brought to my attention that this has happened more than once.
> My mistake. The more reason that there should be guidelines for
> speeches. I still think taking them away completely is extreme.
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:38 PM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:
>> Wow I agree with Owen. I believe that in person speeches are useful and
>> give the community a chance to get to know the candidates. Everyone who
>> willing to run for election should be told the rules. in the whole
>> of ARIN this issue has appeared in one election and I feel that if the
>> candidates are told the rules there will be no further problems.
>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> I oppose the implementation of this suggestion.
>>> No rule prohibiting what Paul and I did existed prior to our doing it.
>>> donât see any way in which it impacted the integrity of the election
>>> However, it has been made clear that such conduct is not desired and I
>>> see no reason that simply making that fact known is not sufficient.
>>> to written-only or pre-fabricated speeches is an unnecessary
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 9:04 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>> A new suggestion was received through the ACSP, and was assigned number
>>> upon receipt of confirmation.
>>> The text of the Suggestion is available at:
>>> ARIN will issue an initial response within 10 business days.
>>> Communications and Member Services
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>> * Suggestion: *
>>> With election time starting to be on the horizon again, it's time for
>>> ARIN to address the events of October in Phoenix, where an outgoing
>>> member hijacked the agenda to stump for his preferred board candidates,
>>> an AC candidate used his speech time to endorse others.
>>> I think that for the integrity of the ARIN election process to remain
>>> intact, ARIN either needs to remove candidate speeches and stick to
>>> materials, or have the speeches given in premade form like a video or
>>> something on the ARIN website.
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