[arin-discuss] IPv6 as justification for IPv4?

Michael Tague tague at win.net
Tue Apr 23 12:42:56 EDT 2013

Thank you John.   If I can recap from your PDF, the breakdown is: 

	32% Registry
	50% Registry Development
	 6% ARIN Organization
	12% Internet Governance
     100% Total Budget ($9.3M - 2011)

John would you say that the Registry cost is based mostly upon:
	1.  New Block registration costs
	2.  Cost of maintaining a block (a /8 or /20, no difference)
	3.  Cost related to the size of the block (total Address space)


-----Original Message-----
From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at arin.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:00 PM
To: Michael Tague
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] IPv6 as justification for IPv4?

On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Michael Tague <tague at win.net> wrote:

> I guess a question for you John is how much of ARIN's cost is of a 
> general nature - to be applied to the industry as a whole - and how much
is specific
> to particular request types?   If it is mostly general, or mostly grows
> address space used, then I would think that a linear - per IP - rate 
> schedule would be most fair.

The core registry costs grow with the number of records (IP address blocks)
in the registry.  The registry development costs relate to policy changes
and new feature development requested by the community.  See the attached
message regarding ARIN's functional cost breakdown.


John Curran
President and CEO

Begin forwarded message:

> From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
> Subject: [arin-discuss] ARIN Budget Size (was: Re: IPv6 as 
> justification for IPv4?)
> Date: April 16, 2013 7:38:31 PM AST
> To: Alec Ginsberg <alec at ionity.com>
> Cc: "arin-discuss at arin.net" <arin-discuss at arin.net>
> On Apr 16, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Alec Ginsberg <alec at ionity.com> wrote:
>> I also would like to understand why this budget is so large, given what
ARIN does.  Are there details around this published?  At face value it seems
like $15 million / year is a lot of money, but maybe there is more to it
than meets the eye?
> Alec -
>  Several choices here in terms of getting the information that you seek...
>  The annual report is online:  
> <https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/annual/2012/>
>  (that will give you a good idea of the tasks and activities that we 
> handle...)
>  You also have the budget: 
> <https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/budget.html>
>  In the end, I believe that the most useful information for 
> understanding ARIN's  costs is contained in the ARIN Function Cost 
> model, which breaks down the core  registry services costs, the costs 
> of registry development (including items such  as policy development 
> and engineering development costs), ARIN corporate governance  (which 
> includes the Board, election process, legal, etc.) and Internet 
> Governance  (which has the costs of ARIN's participation in various 
> Internet governance bodies)
>  I gave the last presentation on this model at the ARIN Oct 2011 
> meeting in Philly,  and the slides are here:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXVIII/PDF/frid
> ay/curran_cost_breakdown.pdf  (and in terms of percentages, it is 32%, 
> 50%, 6%, and 12% respectively)
>  I hope this helps answer question; please let me know if any 
> additional information  is needed.
> Thanks! 
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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