[arin-discuss] Bringing back IP resource Request Templates

[Jawaid Bazyar]

My vote is web, and XML RPC.

On 04/02/2012 04:12 PM, John Brown wrote:
> No XML.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
>> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Alec Ginsberg
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:52 PM
>> To: Robert Marder
>> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Bringing back IP resource Request Templates
>>
>> Once again...  All of these reasons are simply illustrating problems that could
>> be fixed.  For example a proper HA infrastructure that is architected properly.
>>
>> So for all the email template fans.  Would you be ok if it was an XML
>> template?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Robert Marder"<ram at robertmarder.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is another very good reason.
>>>
>>> Just take a look at ARIN's recent maintenance: email templates were
>>> queued, the web interface and the REST API were both completely down.
>>>
>>> It's simply much easier and more reliable to automate email template
>>> submissions than deal with the web interface or web api.
>>>
>>> On 02.04.2012 14:41, John Brown wrote:
>>>> Templates don't require a web browser.
>>>> I've watched hardware vendors move away from CLI to Web based
>> config.
>>>> It sucks for many reasons.  Web looks nicer but doesn't always work
>>>> when you need it to.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Email templates allow for a Fire and forget.
>>>> Web template (via api, curl, etc) requires that the server be
>>>> reachable and able to process in realtime.
>>>>
>>>> eMail template can be generated, sent to the SMTP server and then
>>>> handled.
>>>> If ARIN's system isn't able to process, that's ok, the email is
>>>> QUEUED, either a secondary MX in the "inbox".
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile the human can go home and know that the job is submitted,
>>>> save lost email in transit.
>>>>
>>>> If the request requires a change, you can easily edit the email
>>>> template and re-submit.  Not so with dynamic / live web interface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ARIN should provide multiple I/O paths.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
>>>>> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Chris Cappuccio
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:30 PM
>>>>> To: Robert Marder
>>>>> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Bringing back IP resource Request
>>>>> Templates
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/02/12 12:24, Robert Marder wrote:
>>>>>> I agree as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Templates are easier to fill out and it's nice to have a
>>>>> convenient
>>>>>> log of all my requests.
>>>>> Most of the cases made here for templates seem like lame excuses.
>>>>> The web
>>>>> interface could do all of these things and do them better than your
>>>>> e-mail client. What do you think the money that you pay to ARIN goes
>>>>> for?
>>>>>
>>>>> The real reason would be that folks who do lots of small/frequent
>>>>> updates have to do them by hand instead of doing them on the web.
>>>>> But the web interface is supposed to accommodate that as well. We're
>>>>> talking about dumping text editors and SMTP for HTTP forms which can
>>>>> be handled automatically as well. But the people who need this
>>>>> functionality have probably already figured out how to get it with
>>>>> ARIN.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
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