[arin-discuss] Bringing back IP resource Request Templates

[John Brown]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Alec Ginsberg
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:52 PM
> To: Robert Marder
> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Bringing back IP resource Request Templates
> 
> Once again...  All of these reasons are simply illustrating problems that could
> be fixed.  For example a proper HA infrastructure that is architected properly.
> 
> So for all the email template fans.  Would you be ok if it was an XML
> template?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Robert Marder" <ram at robertmarder.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > This is another very good reason.
> >
> > Just take a look at ARIN's recent maintenance: email templates were
> > queued, the web interface and the REST API were both completely down.
> >
> > It's simply much easier and more reliable to automate email template
> > submissions than deal with the web interface or web api.
> >
> > On 02.04.2012 14:41, John Brown wrote:
> >> Templates don't require a web browser.
> >> I've watched hardware vendors move away from CLI to Web based
> config.
> >> It sucks for many reasons.  Web looks nicer but doesn't always work
> >> when you need it to.
> >>
> >>
> >> Email templates allow for a Fire and forget.
> >> Web template (via api, curl, etc) requires that the server be
> >> reachable and able to process in realtime.
> >>
> >> eMail template can be generated, sent to the SMTP server and then
> >> handled.
> >> If ARIN's system isn't able to process, that's ok, the email is
> >> QUEUED, either a secondary MX in the "inbox".
> >>
> >> Meanwhile the human can go home and know that the job is submitted,
> >> save lost email in transit.
> >>
> >> If the request requires a change, you can easily edit the email
> >> template and re-submit.  Not so with dynamic / live web interface.
> >>
> >>
> >> ARIN should provide multiple I/O paths.
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
> >>> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Chris Cappuccio
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:30 PM
> >>> To: Robert Marder
> >>> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Bringing back IP resource Request
> >>> Templates
> >>>
> >>> On 04/02/12 12:24, Robert Marder wrote:
> >>>> I agree as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Templates are easier to fill out and it's nice to have a
> >>> convenient
> >>>> log of all my requests.
> >>> Most of the cases made here for templates seem like lame excuses.
> >>> The web
> >>> interface could do all of these things and do them better than your
> >>> e-mail client. What do you think the money that you pay to ARIN goes
> >>> for?
> >>>
> >>> The real reason would be that folks who do lots of small/frequent
> >>> updates have to do them by hand instead of doing them on the web.
> >>> But the web interface is supposed to accommodate that as well. We're
> >>> talking about dumping text editors and SMTP for HTTP forms which can
> >>> be handled automatically as well. But the people who need this
> >>> functionality have probably already figured out how to get it with
> >>> ARIN.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
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