[arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Aaron,

   It was not the intent of my post to embarrass or ridicule you,
or get you in trouble on the list, and I am sorry it came across that way.

Ted

Aaron Wendel wrote:
> I'm glad I edited my last post then.  It was far, far worse.
> 
> Since he's essentially called me a liar or an idiot 4 times in the last week
> I guess I felt it was time to "punch him in the face" so to speak.  I'll
> refrain from stooping to his level again.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at arin.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:09 PM
> To: Aaron Wendel
> Cc: ARIN Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6
> assignments to LRSA signatories
> 
> On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
> 
>> Your ARIN fees pay for registration services.  It takes just as long and
> as
>> much effort for someone to record the registration information for a /14
> as
>> it does for a /24 so in reality the big guys are getting screwed because
>> they pay more for the same service the small guys get.
>>
>> As you so strongly promote in other posts, IPs are not property so you are
>> not "buying" them.  Cost per IP has nothing to do with it.  It's the
>> registration services.
>>
>> You really seem to have an axe to grind about everything.  Have you ever
>> considered therapy or maybe crack?  Maybe you just need a good woman... or
>> man if that's what you're into.  (Not judging anyone)  I hope the rest of
>> your life is happier than it seems to be here.
> 
> Aaron - 
>  
> ARIN has multiple services, and the variable costs of providing 
> them varies depending on the particular service.
> 
> For example, the cost of an entry in WHOIS is relatively constant,
> regardless of whether its reflecting a /20 in IPv4 or /32 IPv6...
> 
> For comparison, the cost of processing an request for assignment
> of an additional AS number is very low, and whereas the effort
> to process a request for an additional IPv4 or IPv6 allocation
> can be very, very large, depending on the size of the previous
> allocation and organization of the request supporting materials.
> It may be a transaction cost rather than registration services
> subscription model is a more appropriate mechanism, but that is
> not presently how ARIN charges.
> 
> We're working on a more granular understanding of these costs,
> so we can evolve the fee schedule towards equitable recovery.  
> I expect to have more information on possible cost recovery
> models at the Fall ARIN meeting this year.
> 
> One more item:
>  
>  If you are going to continue to discuss these matters
>  on ARIN's mailing lists, you must cease postings 
>  containing "personal character attacks" and/or postings
>  which "show disrespect for other participants".  Refer
>  to the ARIN Mailing List AUP if needed, available here:
>  <https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/aup.html>
>  
> Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter,
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
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