[arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories

Aaron Wendel aaron at wholesaleinternet.net
Thu Feb 4 17:25:01 EST 2010


I'm glad I edited my last post then.  It was far, far worse.

Since he's essentially called me a liar or an idiot 4 times in the last week
I guess I felt it was time to "punch him in the face" so to speak.  I'll
refrain from stooping to his level again.

Aaron



-----Original Message-----
From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at arin.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:09 PM
To: Aaron Wendel
Cc: ARIN Discussion List
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6
assignments to LRSA signatories

On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:

> Your ARIN fees pay for registration services.  It takes just as long and
as
> much effort for someone to record the registration information for a /14
as
> it does for a /24 so in reality the big guys are getting screwed because
> they pay more for the same service the small guys get.
> 
> As you so strongly promote in other posts, IPs are not property so you are
> not "buying" them.  Cost per IP has nothing to do with it.  It's the
> registration services.
> 
> You really seem to have an axe to grind about everything.  Have you ever
> considered therapy or maybe crack?  Maybe you just need a good woman... or
> man if that's what you're into.  (Not judging anyone)  I hope the rest of
> your life is happier than it seems to be here.

Aaron - 
 
ARIN has multiple services, and the variable costs of providing 
them varies depending on the particular service.

For example, the cost of an entry in WHOIS is relatively constant,
regardless of whether its reflecting a /20 in IPv4 or /32 IPv6...

For comparison, the cost of processing an request for assignment
of an additional AS number is very low, and whereas the effort
to process a request for an additional IPv4 or IPv6 allocation
can be very, very large, depending on the size of the previous
allocation and organization of the request supporting materials.
It may be a transaction cost rather than registration services
subscription model is a more appropriate mechanism, but that is
not presently how ARIN charges.

We're working on a more granular understanding of these costs,
so we can evolve the fee schedule towards equitable recovery.  
I expect to have more information on possible cost recovery
models at the Fall ARIN meeting this year.

One more item:
 
 If you are going to continue to discuss these matters
 on ARIN's mailing lists, you must cease postings 
 containing "personal character attacks" and/or postings
 which "show disrespect for other participants".  Refer
 to the ARIN Mailing List AUP if needed, available here:
 <https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/aup.html>
 
Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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